[hibernate-dev] Chat migration - D minus 115 until the death of HipChat

[Steve Ebersole]

Any consensus on this yet?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:21 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org> wrote:

> Thanks for starting this!
>
> The choice of IRC is a bit special on the list as we never intended it
> to be killed: it has been historically important and we should
> maintain some level of reachability on it.  So voting for the "IRC"
> choice just means a preference to not use anything else on top of it,
> while alternatively we'' be using X on top of IRC, albeit with a
> preference to use X for team conversations.
>
> Also good to remind: please try to be on IRC as well occasionally as
> many in the OSS community we integrate with will reach out there.
>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Yoann Rodiere <yoann at hibernate.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > TL;DR: please vote here if you don't want to end up having to use a chat
> > tool you don't like: https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre
> >
> > HipChat Cloud will stop working on February 15th, 2019 [1]. We need to
> > choose an alternative before we have our back against the wall, so I'll
> try
> > to resurrect the conversation.
> >
> > As a reminder, Stride is no longer an option: Atlassian cancelled the
> > project, and encourages users to migrate to Slack.
> >
> > The discussed options so far were:
> >
> >    - *Moving back to IRC*. Aye: ?; nay: ?
> >    Pros: simple as hell.
> >    Cons: basic as hell; we won't keep the chat history.
> >    - *Migrating to Slack* [6], as suggested by Atlassian [2]. Aye:
> >    Christian B; Nay: ?
> >    Pros: we will keep the chat history (I think).
> >    Cons: not open-source; desktop client consumes a lot of resources.
> >    - *Migrating to Zulip* [3]. Aye: Emmanuel, Yoann. Nay: Guillaume (kind
> >    of).
> >    Pros: Advanced conversation management thanks to the "topics" feature.
> >    Cons: Complex to use because of the "topics" feature; we won't keep
> the
> >    chat history (1).
> >    - *Migrating to Gitter* [5] (we'll create different rooms, probably).
> >    Aye: ?, Nay: ?
> >    Pros: Users seem to actually go there, so we could have our "live
> >    support" rooms next to our "internal discussion" rooms.
> >    Cons: not open-source; we won't keep the chat history (1).
> >
> > I created a poll based on the discussion we had on the thread
> > "[hibernate-dev] Stride". I think everyone had the time to suggest
> another
> > option.
> >
> > Please vote here and now, or remain silent forever ;):
> > https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre
> >
> > I'd suggest the following rules: if there's a single clear winner (a
> > platform that everyone would be happy with), we'll pick that one. If
> there
> > are multiple clear winners, whoever does the migration work will pick
> > what's easier to set up (taking into account the various integrations).
> > Otherwise, back to discussing it on this thread...
> >
> > (1) There seems to be some work in progress on a migration tool from
> > HipChat to Zulip, but it doesn't seem to be ready yet [4]
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/faq#faq-da2b66a1-53d3-4c4e-a405-467d961336f7
> > [2] https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/migration
> > [3] https://hibernate.zulipchat.com/
> > [4] https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/10647
> > [5] https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-orm
> > [6] https://slackdemo.com/
> >
> > Yoann Rodière
> > Hibernate NoORM Team
> > yoann at hibernate.org
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