[infinispan-dev] JDK5 or JDK6? Was: A better fix for Immutables

[Manik Surtani]

On 26 Sep 2009, at 18:29, Adrian Cole wrote:

> I think most enterprises will react to the EOL of JDK 5.  For  
> example, when JDK 1.4 was EOL, almost all applications in a medium  
> sized enterprise I worked in were on JDK 5 within a year.  One  
> limiting factor in uptake time was the maturity of appservers that  
> supported the new JDK.  In today's context, JDK 6 compatible  
> appservers and frameworks have been available for over a year  
> already, and past their .0 release.  I agree that embracing  
> infinispan would imply reasonably fresh thinking and already place  
> it into a dev team who are probably already on JDK 6.  I moreover  
> doubt any enterprise would issue a policy enforcing use of an EOL  
> JDK, so these fresh thinking dev teams will not likely encounter  
> problems moving to prod.

You're only saying that coz you want JClouds to baseline on JDK6 as  
well.  ;)

Lots of good sense in Sanne's and Adrian's arguments though.  Anyone  
else?  Anybody standing on the side of JDK 5?

> at the end of that ramble....
>
> +1 release with JDK 6+ support
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> jclouds
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Sanne Grinovero <sanne.grinovero at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> My 2c:
>
> I'm deploying only on JDKs >=6 since three years now,
> and IMHO new projects going to consider Infinispan in this timeframe
> are probably in a design/early development fase, almost everyone
> will be ready to deploy something stable only after the JDK5 will be  
> phased out.
>
> The main "market" for this kind of libraries is enterprise, which  
> wants support
> and will probably refrain from using Java5, at least for new  
> deployments.
>
> 2009/9/26 Manik Surtani <manik at jboss.org>:
> >
> > On 25 Sep 2009, at 16:56, Galder Zamarreno wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/25/2009 05:38 PM, David M. Lloyd wrote:
> >>> On 09/25/2009 07:38 AM, Manik Surtani wrote:
> >>>> On 25 Sep 2009, at 11:53, Galder Zamarreno wrote:
> >>>>> On 09/24/2009 12:50 PM, Manik Surtani wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> </snip>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For a basic runtime, the deps are fairly limited (JTA  
> interfaces,
> >>>>>> JGroups, JBoss Marshalling if you are using JDK6.  Add JAXB if
> >>>>>> JDK5)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmmm, JBoss Marshalling if you are using JDK6? JBoss  
> Marshalling is
> >>>>> there regardless AFAIK and has JDK5 requirements. It's XNIO 2.0
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> might have JDK6 requirement but it'd be in an optional module
> >>>>> anyway.
> >>>>
> >>>> I should have added brackets.  :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> "{JTA interfaces, JGroups, JBoss Marshalling} if you are using  
> JDK6.
> >>>> Add JAXB if JDK5."
> >>>
> >>> Also it seems foregone that a (relatively-near) future JBMAR will
> >>> require
> >>> JDK6, namely to add support for optimized serialization of new
> >>> collection
> >>> types and to take advantage of the faster classloading of JDK6-
> >>> targeted
> >>> classes.
> >>
> >> Hmmm, this is important since JBMAR is a core dependency. We had a
> >> discussion a while back and the agreement was to stay on JDK5  
> since we
> >> did nothing JDK6 specific but I think it might be time to move to  
> JDK6
> >> fully, thoughts?
> >
> > Vote to the public?  I'd love to baseline on JDK6.  But I'd hate to
> > limit uptake.
> >
> > Cheers
> > --
> > Manik Surtani
> > manik at jboss.org
> > Lead, Infinispan
> > Lead, JBoss Cache
> > http://www.infinispan.org
> > http://www.jbosscache.org
> >
> >
> >
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