[infinispan-dev] design for cluster events (wiki page)

Sanne Grinovero sanne at infinispan.org
Thu Oct 31 18:20:24 EDT 2013


On 31 October 2013 20:07, Mircea Markus <mmarkus at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Dennis Reed <dereed at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/31/2013 02:18 AM, Bela Ban wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also if we did have read only, what criteria would cause those nodes
>>>> to be writeable again?
>>> Once you become the primary partition, e.g. when a view is received
>>> where view.size() >= N where N is a predefined threshold. Can be
>>> different, as long as it is deterministic.
>>>
>>>> There is no guarantee when the other nodes
>>>> will ever come back up or if there will ever be additional ones anytime soon.
>>> If a system picks the Primary Partition approach, then it can become
>>> completely inaccessible (read-only). In this case, I envisage that a
>>> sysadmin will be notified, who can then start additional nodes for the
>>> system to acquire primary partition and become accessible again.
>>
>> There should be a way to manually modify the primary partition status.
>> So if the admin knows the nodes will never return, they can manually
>> enable the partition.
>
> The status will be exposed through JMX at any point, disregarding if there's a split brain going on or not.
>
>>
>> Also, the PartitionContext should know whether the nodes left normally
>> or not.
>> If you have 5 nodes in a cluster, and you shut down 3 of them, you'll
>> want the remaining two to remain available.
>> But if there was a network partition, you wouldn't.  So it needs to know
>> the difference.
>
> very good point again.
> Thank you Dennis!

Let's clarify. If 3 nodes out of 5 are killed without a
reconfiguration, you do NOT want the remaining two to remain available
unless explicitly told so by an admin. It is not possible to
automatically make a distinction between 3 nodes being shut down vs. 3
crashed nodes.

In our face to face meeting we did point out that an admin needs hooks
to be able to:
 - specify how many nodes are expected in the full system (and adapt
dynamically)
 - some admin command to "clean shutdown" a node (which was also
discussed as a strong requirement in scope of CacheStores so I'm
assuming the operation is defined already)

The design Wiki has captured the API we discussed around the
PartitionHandlingStrategy but is missing the details about these
operations, that should probably be added to the PartitionContext as
well.

Also in the scope of CacheStore consistency we had discussed the need
to store the expected nodes to be in the View: for example when the
grid is started and all nodes are finding each other, the Cache shall
not be considered started until all required nodes have joined.

Cheers,
Sanne


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