[jboss-as7-dev] Distribution of testing modules

[Andrew Lee Rubinger]

To me, lean and mean is a matter of RAM footprint and CPU cycles, not 
necessarily download size.  Some blogs might use MB count as some 
indicator, but this is the age of broadband.  I could pull down 100M 
from my phone before I my coffee order was filled.

I'm in favor of arming developers with all tools they'll need to develop 
(which I believe implies testing) alongside the distribution.

Profiles, on the other hand, refer to the services started at AS boot. 
And with on-demand that becomes even less of an issue.

So yes, I think it's natural to put SW, Arquillian and the like inside 
the distro.

Users grabbing AS via Maven can pull these in transitively, much like we 
do now in AS6's "depchain" module.

S,
ALR

On 03/17/2011 09:30 PM, Bruno Georges wrote:
> Does it make sense to align this with the notions of profiles?
> I like the idea of shipping a lean and mean which is what applications developer are used too and look for, however new development paradigm will be relying on those modules.
> Saying that I like the idea of isolating them in a different area.
> I don't know what's the best option for our users, am interested to read feedbacks on this.
> Maybe Max and Andrew have thoughts on how we could provide those modules to the end users (maven/Eclipse,...?) without fattening the distro.
>
> --
> Bruno Georges
>
> On Mar 18, 2011, at 5:56, "David M. Lloyd"<david.lloyd at redhat.com>  wrote:
>
>> In our current modules distribution for AS7 we currently are distributing:
>>
>> - JUnit
>> - HTMLUnit
>> - JSFUnit
>> - Arquillian SureFire
>> - the AS7 Arquillian subsystem
>> - ShrinkWrap
>> - Various glue and support modules for the above
>> - Probably more test-oriented stuff I missed in my glance-over
>>
>> The question is:
>>
>> 1. Do we really want to be distributing these test frameworks?
>> 2. If so, should we put them in their own area somehow?
>> 3. Also if so, should be recommend, as a policy, how and when these
>> modules should be used by end users?
>> 4. If not, how can we exclude them from the final build?
>>
>> --
>> - DML
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