[jboss-as7-dev] Console 1.1.0 Update
Darran Lofthouse
darran.lofthouse at jboss.com
Fri Mar 30 06:11:23 EDT 2012
For this kind of issue over the years I have seen the following kinds of
complaints about our distributions: -
- Download too large.
- Server to slow to start.
- First access to X to slow.
- Too many downloads to choose from and too many downloads for us to
maintain.
I don't know if you ever get this complete set resolved ;-)
Regards,
Darran Lofthouse.
On 03/30/2012 10:57 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
> Personally I would prefer a slim AS and only English. For better or
> worse, English is the defacto language of the Internet, Computer Science
> etc. The console is an expert tool and I would be surprised to find a
> person that would both a) know what to do with the console and b) not
> understand the English used.
>
> Of course there might be political reasons for multi-language support
> etc, just my 2c...
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun at redhat.com
> <mailto:hbraun at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>
> guess that one is for the nerds list, right?
>
>
> On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Carlo de Wolf wrote:
>
> > Or we could make the notion of a package manager a first class
> citizen
> > in AS 7 and let it handle different downloadable setups.
> >
> > For example the one Jaikiran wrote some time back:
> > https://github.com/wolfc/jboss-package-manager
> > (Given that rpms are not everywhere ;-) )
> >
> > Carlo
> >
> > On 03/30/2012 11:28 AM, Darran Lofthouse wrote:
> >> Is there no alternative for us to do some form of just in time
> >> processing for the languages as the resources are served? We have
> >> complete control of the HTTP server if we needed to insert something
> >> additional there.
> >>
> >> Alternatively I do see now why many companies offer different
> localized
> >> downloads now - as an alternative could we provide alternative
> downloads
> >> to add support for different languages to your AS installation.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Darran Lofthouse.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/30/2012 10:23 AM, Tomaz Cerar wrote:
> >>> The thing is that GTW does permutation of user-agent / language
> >>> That means if we support 6 languages and 7 user-agents we get 42
> >>> permutations. Every permutation Is 1.2mb (IIRC) that gives you
> the big
> >>> size...
> >>>
> >>> Maybe we can skip some old and obscure useragents?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> tomaz
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: jboss-as7-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> <mailto:jboss-as7-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org>
> >>> [mailto:jboss-as7-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> <mailto:jboss-as7-dev-bounces at lists.jboss.org>] On Behalf Of Heiko Braun
> >>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:16 AM
> >>> To: Benjamin Browning
> >>> Cc: jboss-as7-dev at lists.jboss.org
> <mailto:jboss-as7-dev at lists.jboss.org> Development
> >>> Subject: Re: [jboss-as7-dev] Console 1.1.0 Update
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> let me check what's going on. additional languages are one
> explanation,
> >>> but there must be something else that doesn't belong here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ike
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Browning wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I brought this up in #jboss-as7 a while back after being
> baffled at how
> >>> much larger AS 7.1.1 was than 7.1.0. Apparently it's all GWT
> permutations
> >>> or something silly.
> >>>> If we translate the console into a few more languages all the GWT
> >>>> permutations may soon surpass the size of everything else in the
> >>>> entire distribution ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Paul Gier wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The 1.1.0 and 1.2.0 versions of the console are a lot larger
> than the
> >>>>> previous 1.0.x versions. Is this expected?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> jboss-as-console-1.0.2.Final-resources.jar ~ 10MB
> >>>>> jboss-as-console-1.2.0.Final-resources.jar ~ 46MB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 03/06/2012 03:22 AM, Heiko Braun wrote:
> >>>>>> Notable changes in AS 7.1.1 at a glance:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> /Additional Subsystems:/
> >>>>>> - infinispan
> >>>>>> - jgroups
> >>>>>> - modcluster
> >>>>>> - mail
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> /Environment Properties:/
> >>>>>> The ability to view any system property that has been passed
> to the
> >>>>>> JVM when the server was started.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> /What's next?/
> >>>>>> In the next iteration we'll focus on accessibility issues (508
> >>>>>> compliance), remaining translations and missing runtime
> operations
> >>> (i.e.
> >>>>>> modcluster).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks to Stan, Pavel and David for their contributions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards, Heiko
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>> *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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