[jboss-dev] AS trunk boot time back to poor?

Brian Stansberry brian.stansberry at redhat.com
Thu Jan 21 17:50:13 EST 2010


On 01/21/2010 11:20 AM, Brian Stansberry wrote:
> On 01/21/2010 10:41 AM, David M. Lloyd wrote:
>> On 01/21/2010 10:39 AM, David M. Lloyd wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2010 09:55 AM, Brian Stansberry wrote:
>
> Semi-OT: a couple weeks ago, when boot.log was<  10MB I tried setting
> -Djboss.boot.server.log.level=INFO and got very little improvement in
> boot time (<  200ms). My take on that is we must have a lot of DEBUG
> logging with very expensive message construction not guarded by
> isDebugEnabled().
>

John Bailey did some quick profiling or something and estimated that 
during startup we have > 5000 log.debug() calls not guarded by 
log.isDebugEnabled(). If you look at the debug logging output, a lot of 
the messages are pretty heavy, some absolutely huge; if those aren't 
guarded it's a serious cost.

Warning: the rest of this post is completely unsupported by evidence; 
just my gut feel.

Perhaps not guarded because that method is deprecated?

Here's a good explanation of why it's deprecated:

http://blogs.jboss.org/blog/dimitris/2005/04/01/AC08547736BD16504BEC955AEBDAA48F.txt

I fear though that deprecating this method is a failed social 
experiment. Please resist the urge to make that deprecation warning go 
away by not putting a code guard around an expensive log.debug(). Either 
reduce the level to trace (and keep a guard of course) or accept the 
warning and bitch publicly about the deprecation.


Please also resist the urge to shift off of EE 6 work in order to scour 
all our code for logging cleanups. :)

-- 
Brian Stansberry
Lead, AS Clustering
JBoss by Red Hat



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