Thanks Norman, perfect :-) The docs need updating then, because they say the attribute is familyName. cheers phil View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4054134#4054134 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4054134