[jboss-user] [JBoss Seam] - Re: How to control end of conversations/state of stateful be

chris.simons do-not-reply at jboss.com
Thu Jan 10 16:31:33 EST 2008

I think part of the problem here is that outside of a few, small example applications provided by the gracious Seam team, there are no true examples of a large, enterprise-level application properly using Seam conversations.

Seam is so closely coupled with conversations that there is no true way of escaping them.  Yet the amount of confusion over how to manage them in an Web environment where the user is truly allowed to go anywhere, do anything, start any process and end it at any time, should point out to the Seam team that *are* issues with conversations in general.

They're a great idea - but I know we're struggling with their usage.  Results are unpredictable at best.  The authors of Seam documentation attempt to show its great value but in practice it is hard to come by.  Try using breadcrumbs based off of Seam conversations - I'll tell you upfront that it simply will cause more headaches than it is worth in a system with many pages and processes.

I think there needs to be a definitive, large-scale example on how to manage conversations in an enterprise application.  There is simply too much confusion for this to be ignored.

My two cents.

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