[jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...

Fri Aug 1 12:32:32 EDT 2014

Ok.

So the jdf-site at openshift removal is canceled because it will have the 
redirect, right Paul and Pete ?

Em 8/1/14, 13:30, Paul Robinson escreveu:
> On 1 Aug 2014, at 16:39, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com 
> <mailto:sgilda at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on
>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that
>>>>>> included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other
>>>>>> product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target
>>>>>> Product' metadata  to the README files?
>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the
>>>>>> table of quickstarts?
>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to
>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/ 
>>>>> <http://www.jboss.org/developer-material/>"jdf-arrival" should be 
>>>>> valid.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying that
>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect to
>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the
>>>> original site?
>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)
>>>
>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to an
>>> page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that
>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) was
>>> moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or automatic
>>> redirect in x seconds) to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>>>
>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?
>>
>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not contain
>> the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, I will get
>> bug reports from QA. :-(
>
> We came up with a plan for this in Edinburgh. It's basically a list 
> view option with a choice on how many items per page to display. It'll 
> be in a jira issue soon so you can comment. We will also have a 
> wireframe and/or mockup available for you to review.
>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site at openshift 
>>>>>>> redirect.
>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf <http://www.jboss.org/jdf> 
>>>>>>> to redirect to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf> (or any other 
>>>>>>>> jboss.org <http://jboss.org>
>>>>>>>> URL) with
>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss
>>>>>>>> Developer
>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the 
>>>>>>>> button
>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, 
>>>>>>>> Tutorials,
>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text
>>>>>>>>> says.
>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here:
>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>. The table
>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates,
>>>>>>>>> gives a
>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience
>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a
>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we
>>>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was
>>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>      • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a36437fec34346160bd15a0ece07c338
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/jboss-eap-6.3.0.CR1-quickstarts.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-develop/README.md#available-quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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