[jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...

Paul Robinson paul.robinson at redhat.com
Fri Aug 1 12:30:25 EDT 2014


On 1 Aug 2014, at 16:39, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com> wrote:

> 
> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>> 
>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>> 
>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on 
>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that 
>>>>> included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other 
>>>>> product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target 
>>>>> Product' metadata  to the README files?
>>>> Yes
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the 
>>>>> table of quickstarts?
>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to 
>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid.
>>> 
>>> Are you saying that 
>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect to 
>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the 
>>> original site?
>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)
>> 
>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to an 
>> page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that 
>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) was 
>> moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or automatic 
>> redirect in x seconds) to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>> 
>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?
> 
> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not contain 
> the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, I will get 
> bug reports from QA. :-(

We came up with a plan for this in Edinburgh. It's basically a list view option with a choice on how many items per page to display. It'll be in a jira issue soon so you can comment. We will also have a wireframe and/or mockup available for you to review.

> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site at openshift redirect.
>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org 
>>>>>>> URL) with
>>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss 
>>>>>>> Developer
>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the button
>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, Tutorials,
>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text 
>>>>>>>> says.
>>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here:
>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>. The table
>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, 
>>>>>>>> gives a
>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience
>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a
>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to
>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we 
>>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was 
>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>      • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>      • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a36437fec34346160bd15a0ece07c338 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not 
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> former
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    site
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/jboss-eap-6.3.0.CR1-quickstarts.zip 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-develop/README.md#available-quickstarts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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