[jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...
Rafael Benevides
benevides at redhat.com
Fri Aug 1 14:09:20 EDT 2014
I'm not sure. I think it worth a discussion with Pete, Paul and
Catherine also.
Em 8/1/14, 15:06, Sande Gilda escreveu:
> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table
> ton that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies
> each demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there
> was a prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to
> read the metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file
> to get that information, which is really ugly.
>
> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate
> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the
> HTML? I could then check the HTML file into the
> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/
> web site and we could redirect it there?
>
> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product
> version of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.
>
> WDYT?
>
>
> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>
>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>
>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on
>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one
>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and
>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the
>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files?
>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with
>>>>>>>>> the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to
>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you saying that
>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will
>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the
>>>>>>> original site?
>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to
>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that
>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc)
>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or
>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to
>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not
>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files,
>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-(
>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;)
>>>
>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to
>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree?
>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site at openshift
>>>>>>>>>> redirect.
>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other
>>>>>>>>>>> jboss.org URL) with
>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss
>>>>>>>>>>> Developer
>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on
>>>>>>>>>>> the button
>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the
>>>>>>>>>>>> text says.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> found here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it
>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a
>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of
>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a
>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a36437fec34346160bd15a0ece07c338
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL for former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/jboss-eap-6.3.0.CR1-quickstarts.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-develop/README.md#available-quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's too late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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