[jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...
Sande Gilda
sgilda at redhat.com
Fri Aug 1 14:12:55 EDT 2014
I agree. This information is pretty important for developers and I hate
to lose it.
On 08/01/2014 02:09 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
> I'm not sure. I think it worth a discussion with Pete, Paul and
> Catherine also.
>
> Em 8/1/14, 15:06, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table
>> ton that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies
>> each demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether
>> there was a prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell
>> them to read the metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart
>> README file to get that information, which is really ugly.
>>
>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate
>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the
>> HTML? I could then check the HTML file into the
>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/
>> web site and we could redirect it there?
>>
>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product
>> version of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>>
>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on
>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one
>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and
>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the
>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files?
>>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with
>>>>>>>>>> the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to
>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you saying that
>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will
>>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the
>>>>>>>> original site?
>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to
>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that
>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc)
>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or
>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to
>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not
>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README
>>>>>> files, I will get bug reports from QA. :-(
>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;)
>>>>
>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to
>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree?
>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site at openshift
>>>>>>>>>>> redirect.
>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other
>>>>>>>>>>>> jboss.org URL) with
>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to
>>>>>>>>>>>> JBoss Developer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the button
>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials,
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> found here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The table
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a36437fec34346160bd15a0ece07c338
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL for former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/jboss-eap-6.3.0.CR1-quickstarts.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-develop/README.md#available-quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's too late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper at lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper at lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper at lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
More information about the jbossdeveloper
mailing list