[jbossdeveloper] <repository /> on quickstarts pom.xml

[Pete Muir]

On 16 Sep 2014, at 00:27, Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com> wrote:

> On 9 Sep 2014, at 16:07, Rafael Benevides wrote:
> 
>> We also need to check that with JBDS, because it's odd that stacks only
>> uses "redhat-techpreview-all-repository" as additional repository.
> 
> because it was the only thing we needed originally.
> 
>> Max/Fred,
>> 
>> Is there any issues having
>> https://maven.repository.redhat.com/earlyaccess/all/ as declared inside
>> quickstarts pom.xml ?
> 
> sorry - but I need to grok when earlyaccess/all is even needed  before answering that ? :)
> 
> My default position would be that if you need earlyaccess you are expected to be able to understand why you need it.
> 
> But i'm not sure if that is true anymore - hence wanting to ask why/when earlyaccess is ever needed ?
> is it for running quickstarts targeting a beta version of EAP ? (meaning no snapshots, but actual all releases in it?)

Right, it’s where we put beta and alpha releases.

> 
> If yes, why doesn't /all get split up in /supported and /earlyaccess and /all will serve the combined result ?

Propose this on the wolf list?

> 
> Meaning we remove the need to have two different repos always handed around but allow those who want the separation to just use /supported if need be.
> 
> i.e. do what maven normally does (use version numbers to separate things) and stop having it be a complex setup for the default case ?
> 
> /max
> 
>> 
>> Em 9/9/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>> On 9 Sep 2014, at 13:06, Marek Novotny <mnovotny at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 9.9.2014 13:56, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>> On 9 Sep 2014, at 12:54, Marek Novotny <mnovotny at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9.9.2014 13:00, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2014, at 11:35, Marek Novotny <mnovotny at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 8.9.2014 18:48, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> QSTools ticket: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-762
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But after placing http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/ at the Quickstarts, I realized that we won't solve the user experience issues without adding - https://maven.repository.redhat.com// and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - http://jboss-developer.github.io/temp-maven-repo/ also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the -develop branch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m not sure we need to worry about people using the -develop branch. This is for contributors only, and they can read the instructions normally.
>>>>>>>>>>> So I assume that we need to inject http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/ in pom.xml and make them to add the others in settings.xml
>>>>>>>>> Well, we may want to add earlyaccess too. WDYT?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why we should have it there for end users? earlyaccess repository is
>>>>>>>> just exceptional resource for public Betas, isn't it? Isn't that
>>>>>>>> confusing to have it there even for traditional GA releases?
>>>>>>> OTOH this is not really the way Maven works. In Maven you tend to mix up all releases, and use version numbers to control what gets pulled in.
>>>>>> Even I agree with your statement, do we have a clean description there
>>>>>> what could end users understand why we have a bunch or repositories
>>>>>> there instead of one? We declared today that you can use our product
>>>>>> maven repository (online techpreview/all or offline zipped repository)
>>>>>> plus Central and then in Quickstarts we use "another" repository.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree that injected repository will help to an end user, but wouldn't
>>>>>> it be simple just as one repository?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you can easily manage versions in BOM imports etc. but for the learning
>>>>>> purpose it can be confusing. WDYT?
>>>>> Hmm. People are used to adding a second repo for snapshots, which is kinda similar.
>>>>> 
>>>> What are our target group of developers for quicksktarts? Newbies or
>>>> experienced devs?
>>>> 
>>>> I may see it more like short and simple bootstrap for newbies, but your
>>>> view is probably different.
>>> Agreed on newbies. Hence why we don’t want to make people add/remove repos, but have a sensible default configured for them.
>>> 
>>>> 
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