Which version should I support? (Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter)
grid.qian
fqian at redhat.com
Mon Dec 8 00:21:38 EST 2008
> http://download.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/
>
O, my god!
Jeff, you are right. Based on your stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip, I get
the issue.
But based on Ganymede, this issue does not occur.
The stp modeler is too distable!
Which version should I support? or both?
Any suggestion are appreciated.
Grid
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "grid.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:45:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>
>
>
>> Grid,
>>
>> As I stated below, I am using the SOA Tools BPMN Editor.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Now I have installed:
>>>>>
>>>>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk
>>>>> JBossTools-3.0.0.CR1-N200812050815-ALL-linux-gtk
>>>>> and the SOA Tools BPMN Modeler from stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>> It is true that my models were generated from PI4SOA CDL models. However I created a very simple model directly in SOA Tools BPMN Modeler and I experience the same issue when trying to convert it to JPDL (attached those files). Also, not sure what you mean by "sequenceflow". I don't see sequenceflow in any .bpmn or .bpmn_diagram.
>>
>>
> O, "sequenceflow" is a name from bpmn specification. In *.bpmn, it 's
> name is "sequenceEdges". In stp bpmn editor, it's name is Flow Connector.
> I am running stp bpmn editor by debugging stp bpmn editor sources. So
> maybe some differences?
> Where do you get the stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip? Please give me a
> link.Thanks.
>
>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "grid.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>> To: "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>, jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
>> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 8:14:43 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>> I have known the reason of the issue JBIDE-3364.
>> I think your bpmn files are not from STP BPMN EDITOR?
>> STP bpmn editor bpmn file: *.bpmn, it's sequenceflow has a attribute:
>> source. The source is the sequenceflow's source node. But your bpmn
>> files has not this attribute. So this issue occurs.
>>
>> John,
>> We need to support these files from other editor?
>> If yes, I need to do some works for it.
>> If not, I have a workaround:
>> Open the bpmn file using stp bpmn editor, do some changes
>> (not real changes, only aim to call stp editor's save method)
>> Then save the file. At this time, the stp editor add the source attribute
>> to the sequenceflow automatically, you may use the bpmn export correctly
>>
>> Grid
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I tried again with another BPMN model that had multiple pools. When I
>>>> uncheck a pool in the wizard, it throws an NPE. Should this be
>>>> described in another JIRA issue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes, please.
>>>
>>> -- John
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 14:22 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jon,
>>>>
>>>> I attached the files. Grid did not report the file worked correctly for him, he just reported that the zip file from the download site that I sent him installed correctly in his environment.
>>>>
>>>> I tried again with another BPMN model that had multiple pools. When I uncheck a pool in the wizard, it throws an NPE. Should this be described in another JIRA issue?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:09:45 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>
>>>> Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> I've created:
>>>>
>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBIDE-3364
>>>>
>>>> to track this. Can you please attach the BPMN file in question to that
>>>> JIRA, so Grid can look into it (not sure if this is the same file as
>>>> originally discussed on this thread, since Grid reported that file
>>>> worked correctly for him.)
>>>>
>>>> Grid: Please take a look into this.
>>>>
>>>> -- John
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:26 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Now I have installed:
>>>>>
>>>>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk
>>>>> JBossTools-3.0.0.CR1-N200812050815-ALL-linux-gtk
>>>>> and the SOA Tools BPMN Modeler from stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> The BPMN Converter is installed, and I see it when I use Export from the Context Menu. However when I get to the step in the wizard that has me select the pool, I select the only pool in my BPMN diagram (I had hand removed the other pools prior to start with a simple example), and it hangs when I select next, and I have to cancel. My BPMN model was generated from the pi4soa CDL tool.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 10:20:54 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that Grid created this zip from his own environment, since I'm
>>>>> not aware of any regularly produced zips in this area.
>>>>>
>>>>> The requirement you mention about using SOA-P tooling only from JBT has
>>>>> been the subject of debate before, with one serious limiting factor
>>>>> being the JBT build. As Nick B moves the JBT to a modular system, then I
>>>>> think these sorts of subsets become possible. Ultimately, it would be
>>>>> Max's call.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 12:15 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of times we don't want the entire JBoss Tools, but just the plugins that we intend to use. In particular doing soa development work I have no interest in or use for seam, rich faces, jbossas tooling. So until there is a version of JBoss Tools targeted at the SOA developer, I would prefer to add the plugins I require. Grid mentioned a common zip, but the one he passed me was old. I don't see a tools common zip on the download page. How would I find this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>, jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 8:59:26 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the surface (just scanning the thread below):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff: Having the plug-in and feature in the right directories is the
>>>>>> first step, but that does not necessarily mean that the Eclipse platform
>>>>>> will load them (dependencies could be missing). If you don't see a
>>>>>> "BPMN" category under Export, then it is likely due to missing
>>>>>> dependencies. I would suggest the latest Eclipse Gaynmede J2EE package
>>>>>> and latest JBT CR1 build to ensure everything is in place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:27 +0800, feng.qian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tested your zip file. No problems.
>>>>>>> Please go to the eclipse menu Help->About Eclipse Platform->Plug-in
>>>>>>> Details and see
>>>>>>> if the plugin is correctly installed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grid,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Downloaded from:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/tools/download/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have verified that both the feature and the plugin are in the appropriate directory:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have attached the zip file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 9:39:16 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Grid,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is not working for me. I do not see the BPMN Folder.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I unzipped jBPM-Convert-1.0.0.Beta1-R200810311334.zip into eclipse folder.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FYI I have installed:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pi4soa2.0.0.CR4-eclipse3.4-linux.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>> jbpm 3.1.5 via the local update site (jbpm-jpdl-designer-site-3.1.5.zip)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jBPM-Convert-1.0.0.Beta1-R200810311334.zip?
>>>>>>>> Where do you get it? I have never seen this zip. But I think it maybe:
>>>>>>>> The zip should include a feature named org.jboss.tools.jbpm.convert.feature and a plugin named org.jboss.tools.jbpm.convert.
>>>>>>>> You should put the plugin into eclipse/plugins and the feature into eclipse/features.
>>>>>>>> If not working, please send the zip to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> eclipse stp bpmn modeler from local update site (stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is my "process designer" workbench :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:54:33 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>>>>>>> This is my carelessness. I forgot to tell you the changes about jbpm
>>>>>>>>> convert. As John's suggestion, I removed the popup menu of jbpm convert
>>>>>>>>> and added a export wizard.
>>>>>>>>> You may:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Choose a *.bpmn file ,and right click on it.
>>>>>>>>> 2. The popup menu is opened.
>>>>>>>>> 3. You click on Export... action.
>>>>>>>>> 4. A wizard for export open.
>>>>>>>>> 5. In this wizard, there is a folder named BPMN Export, click it
>>>>>>>>> to expand it and click BPMN -> JPDL menu.
>>>>>>>>> 6. A wizard for jbpm converter open.
>>>>>>>>> This wizard looks like that before. I think you are able to use it.
>>>>>>>>> Any questions, please let me know.
>>>>>>>>> (Before you use jbpm convert, you must have two file in a folder: *.bpmn
>>>>>>>>> and *.bpmn_diagram)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Grid
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Grid,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I installed the JBPM Converter into my Eclipse 3.4 installation (Linux). Next time I started it Eclipse it came up shrunken in the top left corner of my display.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a BPMN diagram (that I generated from a PI4SOA cdm file) and want to try to convert it to jBPM. Not sure what is the right way to do that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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