Which version should I support? (Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter)

grid.qian fqian at redhat.com
Mon Dec 8 00:24:16 EST 2008


>
>> http://download.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/
>>   
>

 From this link page, the Ganymede is stable. 
stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip is committer build.

> O, my god!
> Jeff, you are right. Based on your stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip, I 
> get the issue.
> But based on Ganymede, this issue does not occur.
> The stp modeler is too distable!
>
> Which version should I support? or both?
> Any suggestion are appreciated.
>
> Grid
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "grid.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:45:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>
>>
>>  
>>> Grid,
>>>
>>> As I stated below, I am using the SOA Tools BPMN Editor.
>>>
>>>      
>>>>>> Now I have installed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk
>>>>>> JBossTools-3.0.0.CR1-N200812050815-ALL-linux-gtk
>>>>>> and the SOA Tools BPMN Modeler from stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip
>>>>>>                   
>>>
>>> It is true that my models were generated from PI4SOA CDL models. 
>>> However I created a very simple model directly in SOA Tools BPMN 
>>> Modeler and I experience the same issue when trying to convert it to 
>>> JPDL (attached those files). Also, not sure what you mean by 
>>> "sequenceflow". I don't see sequenceflow in any .bpmn or .bpmn_diagram.
>>>       
>> O, "sequenceflow" is a name from bpmn specification. In  *.bpmn, it 
>> 's name  is  "sequenceEdges". In stp bpmn editor, it's name is Flow 
>> Connector.
>> I am running stp bpmn editor by debugging stp bpmn editor sources. So 
>> maybe some differences?
>> Where do you get the stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip? Please give me a 
>> link.Thanks.
>>
>>  
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "grid.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>> To: "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>, 
>>> jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 8:14:43 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> I have known the reason of the issue JBIDE-3364.
>>> I think your bpmn files are not from STP BPMN EDITOR?
>>> STP bpmn editor bpmn file: *.bpmn, it's sequenceflow has a attribute:
>>> source. The source is the sequenceflow's source node. But your bpmn
>>> files has not this attribute. So this issue occurs.
>>>
>>> John,
>>> We need to support these files from other editor?
>>> If yes, I need to do some works for it.
>>> If not, I have a workaround:
>>> Open the bpmn file using stp bpmn editor, do some changes
>>> (not real changes, only aim to call stp editor's save method)
>>> Then save the file. At this time, the stp editor add the source 
>>> attribute
>>> to the sequenceflow automatically, you may use the bpmn export 
>>> correctly
>>>
>>> Grid
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>>> I tried again with another BPMN model that had multiple pools. When I
>>>>> uncheck a pool in the wizard, it throws an NPE. Should this be
>>>>> described in another JIRA issue
>>>>>                   
>>>> Yes, please.
>>>>
>>>> -- John
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 14:22 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>>>            
>>>>> Jon,
>>>>>
>>>>> I attached the files. Grid did not report the file worked 
>>>>> correctly for him, he just reported that the zip file from the 
>>>>> download site that I sent him installed correctly in his environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried again with another BPMN model that had multiple pools. 
>>>>> When I uncheck a pool in the wizard, it throws an NPE. Should this 
>>>>> be described in another JIRA issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:09:45 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada 
>>>>> Mountain
>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've created:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBIDE-3364
>>>>>
>>>>> to track this. Can you please attach the BPMN file in question to 
>>>>> that
>>>>> JIRA, so Grid can look into it (not sure if this is the same file as
>>>>> originally discussed on this thread, since Grid reported that file
>>>>> worked correctly for him.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Grid: Please take a look into this.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:26 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>>>>                  
>>>>>> Now I have installed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk
>>>>>> JBossTools-3.0.0.CR1-N200812050815-ALL-linux-gtk
>>>>>> and the SOA Tools BPMN Modeler from stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The BPMN Converter is installed, and I see it when I use Export 
>>>>>> from the Context Menu. However when I get to the step in the 
>>>>>> wizard that has me select the pool, I select the only pool in my 
>>>>>> BPMN diagram (I had hand removed the other pools prior to start 
>>>>>> with a simple example), and it hangs when I select next, and I 
>>>>>> have to cancel. My BPMN model was generated from the pi4soa CDL 
>>>>>> tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 10:20:54 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada 
>>>>>> Mountain
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that Grid created this zip from his own environment, 
>>>>>> since I'm
>>>>>> not aware of any regularly produced zips in this area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The requirement you mention about using SOA-P tooling only from 
>>>>>> JBT has
>>>>>> been the subject of debate before, with one serious limiting factor
>>>>>> being the JBT build. As Nick B moves the JBT to a modular system, 
>>>>>> then I
>>>>>> think these sorts of subsets become possible. Ultimately, it 
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>> Max's call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 12:15 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>> Jon,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot of times we don't want the entire JBoss Tools, but just 
>>>>>>> the plugins that we intend to use. In particular doing soa 
>>>>>>> development work I have no interest in or use for seam, rich 
>>>>>>> faces, jbossas tooling. So until there is a version of JBoss 
>>>>>>> Tools targeted at the SOA developer, I would prefer to add the 
>>>>>>> plugins I require. Grid mentioned a common zip, but the one he 
>>>>>>> passed me was old. I don't see a tools common zip on the 
>>>>>>> download page. How would I find this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> To: "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>, 
>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 8:59:26 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada 
>>>>>>> Mountain
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the surface (just scanning the thread below):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff: Having the plug-in and feature in the right directories is 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> first step, but that does not necessarily mean that the Eclipse 
>>>>>>> platform
>>>>>>> will load them (dependencies could be missing). If you don't see a
>>>>>>> "BPMN" category under Export, then it is likely due to missing
>>>>>>> dependencies. I would suggest the latest Eclipse Gaynmede J2EE 
>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>> and latest JBT CR1 build to ensure everything is in place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:27 +0800, feng.qian wrote:
>>>>>>>                              
>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tested your zip file.  No problems.
>>>>>>>> Please go to the eclipse menu Help->About Eclipse 
>>>>>>>> Platform->Plug-in Details and see
>>>>>>>> if the plugin is correctly installed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                    
>>>>>>>>> Grid,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Downloaded from:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/tools/download/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have verified that both the feature and the plugin are in 
>>>>>>>>> the appropriate directory:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have attached the zip file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 9:39:16 PM GMT -07:00 
>>>>>>>>> US/Canada Mountain
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                                            
>>>>>>>>>> Grid,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is not working for me. I do not see the BPMN Folder.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I unzipped jBPM-Convert-1.0.0.Beta1-R200810311334.zip into 
>>>>>>>>>> eclipse folder.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FYI I have installed:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pi4soa2.0.0.CR4-eclipse3.4-linux.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>> jbpm 3.1.5 via the local update site 
>>>>>>>>>> (jbpm-jpdl-designer-site-3.1.5.zip)
>>>>>>>>>>                                                       
>>>>>>>>> jBPM-Convert-1.0.0.Beta1-R200810311334.zip?
>>>>>>>>> Where do you get it? I have never seen this zip. But I think 
>>>>>>>>> it maybe:
>>>>>>>>> The zip should include a feature named 
>>>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.jbpm.convert.feature and a plugin named 
>>>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.jbpm.convert.
>>>>>>>>> You should put the plugin into eclipse/plugins and the feature 
>>>>>>>>> into eclipse/features.
>>>>>>>>> If not working, please send the zip to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                                            
>>>>>>>>>> eclipse stp bpmn modeler from local update site 
>>>>>>>>>> (stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is my "process designer" workbench :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "feng.qian" <fqian at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:54:33 PM GMT -07:00 
>>>>>>>>>> US/Canada Mountain
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How to use JBPm Converter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey,
>>>>>>>>>> This is my carelessness.  I forgot to tell you the changes 
>>>>>>>>>> about jbpm convert. As John's suggestion, I removed the popup 
>>>>>>>>>> menu of jbpm convert and added a export wizard.
>>>>>>>>>> You may:
>>>>>>>>>>  1. Choose a *.bpmn file ,and right click on it.
>>>>>>>>>>  2. The popup menu is opened.
>>>>>>>>>>  3. You click on Export... action.
>>>>>>>>>>  4. A wizard for export open.
>>>>>>>>>>  5.  In this  wizard,  there is a folder named BPMN Export, 
>>>>>>>>>> click  it  to  expand it and  click BPMN -> JPDL menu.
>>>>>>>>>>  6.  A wizard for jbpm converter open.
>>>>>>>>>> This wizard looks like that before. I think you  are able to 
>>>>>>>>>> use it.
>>>>>>>>>> Any questions,  please  let me know.
>>>>>>>>>> (Before you use jbpm convert, you must have two file in a 
>>>>>>>>>> folder: *.bpmn and *.bpmn_diagram)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> Grid
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                                                      
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Grid,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I installed the JBPM Converter into my Eclipse 3.4 
>>>>>>>>>>> installation (Linux). Next time I started it Eclipse it came 
>>>>>>>>>>> up shrunken in the top left corner of my display.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a BPMN diagram (that I generated from a PI4SOA cdm 
>>>>>>>>>>> file) and want to try to convert it to jBPM. Not sure what 
>>>>>>>>>>> is the right way to do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>                                                       
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