[jbosstools-dev] Slip the release of JBT/JBDS SOA Tooling to a couple weeks after JBT/JBDS Core? (was Re: Adding Plugins to m2e Discovery Mechanism)

Wed Feb 22 13:48:19 EST 2012

(Added Ken and Anne-Louise to the cc list) 

The current released version of SOA-P is 5.2 - this release is only supported with JBDS 4.1.1 (4.1.2, I guess actually). 

The first version of SOA-P that will support JBDS 5 is SOA-P 5.3 - and we are several weeks away from a beta-ready build of SOA-P 5.3. 

So - I think that the ~2 week delay for SOA tooling with JBDS 5.0.beta1 is not an issue. 

Ken - would you agree? 

-- Len 

----- Original Message -----

> From: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt at redhat.com>
> To: "Rob Cernich" <rcernich at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse at redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev
> jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "Len DiMaggio"
> <ldimaggi at redhat.com>, "Mark Yarborough" <myarboro at redhat.com>,
> "John Graham" <jgraham at redhat.com>, "Burr Sutter"
> <bsutter at redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:27:12 PM
> Subject: Slip the release of JBT/JBDS SOA Tooling to a couple weeks
> after JBT/JBDS Core? (was Re: [jbosstools-dev] Adding Plugins to m2e
> Discovery Mechanism)

> Well, then, if we target the QE cycle for the SOA Tooling site to
> start
> "in a week or two", you could have your Beta1 site (including
> 0.4.0.Final) out by the end of March.

> Does that work? It'd be very much like the Eclipse release train
> model
> with +0, +1, +2, +3 tier projects [1], and the accompanying date
> offsets
> needed to have everyone align with their upstream bits.

> (Teiid is also a bit behind -- I'd expected that they'd already be
> testing w/ the SR1-M target platform so when I flipped the switch on
> them to start building against that, they'd build fine, but they're
> broken right now. They too are a +3 project to JBT Core's +0.)

> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Indigo/Simultaneous_Release_Plan

> Adding John, Mark, Burr, and Len so they're in the loop on this
> "staggered release" idea and suggested 2 week offset. I have no idea
> if
> that works from their point of view.

> On 02/22/2012 01:19 PM, Rob Cernich wrote:
> > I think I'd want one of our "Final" releases to show up there. That
> > said, 0.4 won't be complete for another week or two and I don't
> > remember whether or not the m2e extension was in 0.3.
> >
> > I'm happy to wait.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> guys we are working on beta1 - that seem to be a fine place and
> >> time
> >> to push such a thing aint it ?
> >>
> >> /max
> >>
> >> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Nick Boldt wrote:
> >>
> >>> So then we take the nightly site, move it a temporary location
> >>> that
> >>> won't be overwritten by subsequent nightly spins, and tell QE to
> >>> go
> >>> wail
> >>> on it (Feb 23).
> >>>
> >>> Then, after QE vets it as being stable enough and safe enough to
> >>> release
> >>> (Mar 12), it gets moved to here:
> >>>
> >>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/development/indigo/soa-tooling/
> >>>
> >>> That URL currently contains the M5 bits (which does not yet
> >>> include
> >>> Switchyard 0.4).
> >>>
> >>> It will persist there until such time as CR1 is done, and then
> >>> we'll
> >>> replace the site w/ the CR1 bits.
> >>>
> >>> Isn't that what we do for the JBoss Tools (Core) [1] entry in the
> >>> Eclipse Marketplace today?
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://marketplace.eclipse.org/node/121986
> >>>
> >>> N
> >>>
> >>> On 02/22/2012 10:33 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> >>>> You cant put a nightly build updatesite which changes and can
> >>>> break any minute into the m2e repository used by all users of
> >>>> eclipse.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's insane - you want a *stable* set of bits up there.
> >>>>
> >>>> /max
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Rob Cernich wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> you got a stable URL for switchyard plugins yet to submit ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We need to be careful which we add here :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't quite follow. I was assuming nightly would work (i.e.
> >>>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk/).
> >>>>> It doesn't appear that a "version" is required on the catalog
> >>>>> entry and the documentation is doesn't specify anything other
> >>>>> than, "It is assumed that contents of provided p2 repository
> >>>>> will not change in the future unless corresponding m2e
> >>>>> marketplace catalog entry is removed or amended," which I
> >>>>> interpret as, some version of the feature and bundle must be
> >>>>> available from the specified repository.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Another thing that was unclear was whether or not my m2e
> >>>>> extension needs to be packaged separately from the rest of the
> >>>>> SwitchYard tooling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rob
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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