[jbosstools-dev] Fwd: [eclipse.org-planning-council] ECF possibly leaving the train

[Nick Boldt]

FYI. ECF might leave the simultaneous release train. Reasons why this
is potentially bad for us are outlined below.

https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/ecf-dev/msg07938.html


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From: Sam Davis <sam.davis at tasktop.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:00 PM
Subject: [eclipse.org-planning-council] ECF possibly leaving the train
To: Eclipse Planning Council private list
<eclipse.org-planning-council at eclipse.org>


Hi,

I want to bring to the Council's attention the fact that ECF is
considering pulling out of the simultaneous release train, because I
haven't seen any discussion about this. This is concerning for a
couple of reasons:

* a number of projects in the train, including Platform, depend on
ECF, so we may end up with different projects pulling in different
versions of ECF, which is not ideal
* The fact that participation in the train entails so much overhead
that an active project with a long history of successful participation
is considering pulling out seems like a larger and quite serious
problem for Eclipse. I believe at least part of the overhead is due to
the instability of the build infrastructure.

I'm afraid I don't have any concrete solutions to propose, but I
wonder if, given the current resources, we should consider simplifying
the contribution process (somehow), or reallocating resources from
elsewhere to improve the stability of the infrastructure.

Regarding the infrastructure, my experience from the Mylyn project is
that projects must spend a great deal of time dealing with broken
Hudson slaves, breakages in the signing service, and similar issues,
to the point where I can see why it threatens projects' ability to
participate. Just to be clear, I am not blaming anyone for this - I
know that it takes a lot of work to keep all these things running
smoothly.

Cheers,
Sam

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Sam Davis
Software Engineer, Tasktop Dev
Committer, Eclipse Mylyn
http://tasktop.com

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