[jbosstools-dev] Do we still need Xulrunner in Devstudio?

[Alexey Kazakov]

> On Oct 22, 2016, at 1:32 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako at redhat.com> wrote:
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>> From: "Alexey Kazakov" <alkazako at redhat.com>
>> To: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt at redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse at redhat.com>, "Aleksandar Kurtakov" <akurtako at redhat.com>, "Ilya Buziuk"
>> <ibuziuk at redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "Leo Ufimtsev"
>> <lufimtse at redhat.com>, "Leonard Dimaggio" <ldimaggi at redhat.com>, "Rick Wagner" <rwagner at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, 22 October, 2016 7:21:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: Do we still need Xulrunner in Devstudio?
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>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Nick Boldt <nboldt at redhat.com> wrote:
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>>> ICYMI the status of this is now:
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>>> * List the features that are non-supportable on Red Hat Linux desktop
>>> - visual page editor & preview - requires xulrunner, which requires
>>> GTK2. GTK2 is not supported on RHEL7/Fedora24+)
>> 
>> Minor correction. HTML preview is supported. It's coupled with Xulrunner but
>> doesn't use it.
> 
> So can this be split for next JBT release ? That would be good first step.

We are going to investigate it to see how much time it could take to do the split. Then we can prioritize and plan this work.

Thanks.


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>>> * Document it (including details about libnotify and GTK3)
>>> * review this limitation for next year's major release train as a team
>>> with PM being aware of the issues
>>> * consider developing a VPE and preview that don't require xulrunner/GTK2
>>> 
>>> See also https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RHDEVDOCS-120 and
>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-4059
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:46 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 29 Sep 2016, at 17:37, Nick Boldt wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why wouldn't it be a solution?
>>>> 
>>>> before you guys get all trapped in VPE issues for the <10% of users
>>>> please also remember that browsersim and cordovasim relies on JavaFX
>>>> which afaik still is not available on RHEL and Fedora OpenJDK.
>>>> 
>>>> Thus we already have cases where we got features we just can't support on
>>>> RHEL and Fedora because the baseOS/VM's don't support the necessary
>>>> features.
>>>> 
>>>> And even if users installs Oracle JDK to work around this then at least
>>>> last time I looked at it JavaFX had hard bindings to GTK2 too.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is my suggestion:
>>>> 
>>>> List the features that are non-supportable on Red Hat Linux desktop.
>>>> 
>>>> Exclude or disable them by default in the RPM distro.
>>>> 
>>>> Go look at the usage stats we added 1-2 years ago to track how
>>>> much the various editors/simulators are used.
>>>> 
>>>> Document it and review it for the next years major release train
>>>> as a team and with PM being aware of the issues.
>>>> 
>>>> /max
>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio
>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com
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> -- 
> Alexander Kurtakov
> Red Hat Eclipse team