[jbosstools-issues] [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBIDE-6537) Helios support for JBT v3.1.1

[Darryl Miles (JIRA)]

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Darryl Miles commented on JBIDE-6537:
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Well are you already know since making your last comment in JIRA the important URL http://downloads.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/nightly/3.2.helios/jbosstools-3.2.0.M1/ is broken (as per my previous comment).

Yes even if 3.1.x is not being fixed with regards to this bug report, please consider the point being made when it comes to setting the version for the 3.2.x and future releases of JBT.

There is no shame with running plugins designed for a pervious generation of Eclipse (Galileo in this case) with the current generation of Eclipse (Helios in this case) until such time that the GA version of the Helios release is ready.  We understand we won't have any new Helios features integrated but we do expect it to work with Helios (even if its not officially supported).

There is also no shame in citing the Eclipse platform as "letting JBT down" with regards to the Eclipse project goals to do with major/minor/patchlevel incremental changes - if eclipse.org break something.  Your presumption has to be on the side of the overall compatibility goals with version numbering.  This means using "[3.4.4,5)" in the case of com.ibm.icu here (for JBT 3.1.x), possibly moving up the lower limit for the JBT 3.2.x releases to "[4.2,5)".  So please don't be scared on putting faith into the eclipse.org compatibility goals, you should expect minor number version changes of dependant plugins to just work and therefore configure your pre-requisites accordingly.

This isn't my first bug report filed with JBT on just this kind of problem (to do with version settings).

Also update sites are no use unless they are exploded on a URL, I'm done with running arround managing eclipse plugins from multiple sources/ZIPs/etc..., downloading, messing up, reinstalling; have spent far too much of my life dealing with that, its obviously what the problems (with the system) are but nobody has been able to fix them in the 6 years I've been following eclipse.


> Helios support for JBT v3.1.1
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>
>                 Key: JBIDE-6537
>                 URL: https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-6537
>             Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
>          Issue Type: Task
>          Components: Hibernate, Seam
>    Affects Versions: 3.1.1
>            Reporter: Darryl Miles
>            Assignee: Max Rydahl Andersen
>
> Both the "Hibernate Tools" and "Seam Tools" for JBT v3.1.1 have too narrow version requirements for com.ibm.icu to be compatible with Helios.
> Helios comes with  com.ibm.icu v4.2.1
> Currently the version requirements are set to [3.4.4,4.1.0) so this should be changed at a minimum to [3.4.4,4.3.0) to allow both these JBT components to install on top of Helios.
> However you should consider using an even wider version width of [3.4.4,5) since it is accepted practise that minor version increments are backwardly compatible and a major version change is potentially API breaking.  This means that generally JBT should (and is expected to) work on all future versions of com.ibm.icu up until version 5 is released.

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