[jbossws-dev] [Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 2 - Development

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"alessio.soldano at jboss.com" wrote : 
  | Speaking of samples, we think to provide meaningful advanced samples. These might cover the testcases I spoke about in the productivity introduction http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095128#4094685, supporting tutorials in the documentation on advanced topics like security, attachments, addressing, etc.
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Amazing...but please let me play with this meaningful advanced samples. What I'm trying to say is that this sample would be a ws sample, but to better understand what it does users have to play with the genarated application.
With "Play with" I mean they have to understand which services is provided (explaination in docs) call ws and see the results, read logs and understand what it's happening. In my experience too simple samples is useless as you said, but complex ones can become useless if users can't play with them.
IMHO Wise and LMS (you introduced in next level) can have a role in this "educational play", and SoapUI too of course. But the most amazing approach  would be to develop dedicated web interface for this sample, giving to users opportunity to deploy and start to play, without hving to understand one more tool.

  
anonymous wrote : 
  | At the same time, we might focus on tools supporting the development phase of webservices. I'm thinking about a way to easily generate tests (JUnit or TestNG) for the users' services in a given project as far as an Eclipse project configuration with an Ant build file to run them all.
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Last commit on wise (you were too busy to get it) went in this direction.
The idea is to generate test case using input provided by the user in the web interface. The assertion could use output received in web interface and validated by the user or not (leaving the developers free to write their own assertion). This approach could be very useful to generate regression tests starting from input/output of a QA reported bug.
I can explain a little more if you are interested in this idea.

Of course it's good for unit regression test, and not for massive or load tests, it would be annoying to insert billion of test case using a web interface :). Anyway I'm convinced some solution can be studied also for these situation using wise generated code just to have a test template and some standard or customizable parser to call this test template.

hoping it might help

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