[jbpm-dev] jBPM5 Request for Comments - feedback

[Mauricio Salatino]

Hi guys,
Good points. I'm not sure if I agree with Sebastian when he mention the the
API separation. Right now if we think into an integrated
environment/platform (I'm not saying heavy-weight) the APIs and the
semantics used need to be chosen carefully.
But the main ideas remains the same :
- embeddable
-  small footprint
- BPMN2
- pluggeable modules with default implementations

About Maciej thoughts, I notice that you pointed out Sebastian's words and I
notice that both knows Drools only as a Business Rule engine (just Drools
Expert), would be nice to discuss the main points of the other modules of
Drools as well, just to not miss something important.

Greetings.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Maciej Swiderski <
swiderski.maciej at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I agree with you if we are talking about jBPM as a framework as it is
> currently. But in my opinion presented concept is more like complete
> platform and not only framework. That's why I suggested that authorization
> should be included there as well.
> Obviously it should be plug-able but I think this will be done like that by
> default.
> BTW, it was described already in the article, I just simple missed it.
>
> In addition, it should be clearly shown what is the purpose of jBPM and
> Drools. At this point they overlap each other in some areas which makes it a
> bit confusing. As Sebastian pointed out, Drools is a good rules engine and
> jBPM is a good workflow engine so focus should be on integrating them in a
> easy way, that would bring a lot to both.
>
> Regards
> Maciej
>
> 2010/4/17 Sebastian Schneider <schneider at dvz.fh-aachen.de>
>
> Hello Mauricio,
>>
>> Am 17.04.2010 18:20, schrieb Mauricio Salatino:
>> > Hi Sebastian,
>> > Not sure about PVM, I think there are some differences with jBPM that
>> > need to be addressed.
>> > In drools flow there is already an advanced support for BPMN2, so it
>> > think we need to dig a little bit to find out big differences and
>> > missing points.
>>
>> Does Drools Flow use a version of the PVM? Anyway, I never understood
>> completely what was the point of Drools Flow since in the first place
>> Drools is a business rules engine for me - and a good one - but not a
>> solution for the execution of complete processes.
>>
>> I know that there are cases where a busines rule represents a kind of
>> flow and this is where Drools Flow fits in for me but I would never
>> consider task management part of it for example.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents
>> Sebastian
>>
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