[rules-users] Basic doubt regarding Drools Fusion - @expires

Thu Mar 17 12:51:28 EDT 2011

I forgot to mention that I’m running in stream mode, yes ☺

I’m having problems regarding event expiration: I define events with @expires(1h) but they won’t disappear, I had to write some rules to force the expiration.

To keep short a long history… ☺

·         I put transactions into entry-point “incoming”

·         I’ve got rules that create a new event (defined in .drl file) when a transaction is inserted in the working memory. That event has an expire time (1h)

·         But I’ve notice that the created event will never go away

// transaction inserted into working memory through insertFact()
declare Transaction
      @role( event )
      @expires( 1h )
end

// event created when working memory receives transaction
declare ExampleTransaction
      @role( event )
      @expires( 1h )
      value: int
      transaction: Transaction
end

// rule to create event
rule "new example transaction"
when
      $transaction : Transaction() over window:time(1h) from entry-point "incoming"
then
    ExampleTransaction exampleTransaction = new ExampleTransaction();
    exampleTransaction.setValue(0);
    exampleTransaction.setTransaction($transaction);
    insert( exampleTransaction );
end

Maybe submitting a new issue with a JUnit test would be nice, right? ☺

Vítor Mendonça Moreira
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From: rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Edson Tirelli
Sent: quinta-feira, 17 de Março de 2011 13:41
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Basic doubt regarding Drools Fusion - @expires

   You lost me. Why are you defining a rule to retract your event? If you are running in STREAM mode, @expires will take care of the retraction for you automatically...

   Regarding threads, I said by default because there is an experimental feature that makes drools start internal threads, but that is not production ready yet.

   Edson

2011/3/17 Makewise - Vitor Rui Mendonça <Vitor.Mendonca at brisa.pt<mailto:Vitor.Mendonca at brisa.pt>>
Edison, first of all, thanks for your quick reply!

Those initial words caught my attention, although: “By default, Drools does not start any internal thread”…

What do you mean “by default”?
I know there are ways to force the event to be expired but I’m looking for a solution that doesn’t involve to write new rules.

For example, I’m using this kind of solution:

declare A

      @role( event )

      @expires( 1h )

end
rule "internal - expiring A"
      timer(int:1h)
when
      $a : A() from entry-point "incoming"
then
      retract($a);
end

Although this solution works (from Drools 5.1), I’m forced to write a rule to expire an event that’s supposed to be expired initially.
There’s a simpler way to do this? I’m thinking correctly?

Once again, thanks!

Vítor Mendonça Moreira
Analista / Programador
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From: rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org> [mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org>] On Behalf Of Edson Tirelli
Sent: quarta-feira, 16 de Março de 2011 18:38
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Basic doubt regarding Drools Fusion - @expires

   By default, Drools does not start any internal thread, so that you can embed it in non-multithread applications or in JEE containers. That means that the actual release of events in such cases depends on triggers. In your example, after 1h has passed, whenever something happens to the session (a new rule is fired, a new event is inserted, the session clock is advanced, etc), the event will be expired as part of the action. Remember though that it only happens when running in STREAM mode. In CLOUD mode, event garbage collection does not make sense and will not happen.

  Edson
2011/3/16 Makewise - Vitor Rui Mendonça <Vitor.Mendonca at brisa.pt<mailto:Vitor.Mendonca at brisa.pt>>
Hi all!

I’ve got a really basic doubt… I’ve read several documentation regarding it but I think I need some advice here…

Imagine that I have an event:
declare A
      @role( event )
      @expires( 1h )
end

On my Java code, I call “fireAllRules()” method every time that I put an event into the working memory.

My doubt: When does event A expires?

a)      One hour after it was inserted (time-based and without the “fireAllRules()” method call) or

b)      by calling “fireAllRules()” method (event-based)

T.I.A.

Vítor Mendonça Moreira
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