[rules-users] Guvnor - Operations with snapshots

[Jervis Liu]

Esteban Aliverti wrote:
> Hi Jervis,
> When you build a SNAPSHOT with an existing name (Guvnor shows you all 
> the SNAPSHOTS and lets you select an existing one), the SNAPSHOT is 
> updated (maybe under the hood the SNAPSHOT gets removed and a new one 
> is created). So, if you have an application pointing to the SNAPSHOT 
> you can update the assets it uses without modifying anything in the 
> application itself.
>
Hi Esteban, I can not find any places in Guvnor UI that allows you to 
rebuild a snapshot. Are you referring to the Working Set instead?
> Best Regards, 
>
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> Esteban Aliverti
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> 2011/10/8 Jervis Liu <jliu at redhat.com <mailto:jliu at redhat.com>>
>
>     Hi Esteban,
>
>     The package snapshot wont be gone in the near future. One reason
>     is for backward compatibility. Another concern is that we still
>     need to find out if there are any use cases that package version
>     can not cover. In this case, your input is exactly what we are
>     looking for. Please see my comment in-line below.
>
>     On 2011/10/8 17:09, Esteban Aliverti wrote:
>>     Jervis, so you are trying to deprecate SNAPSHOTS in favor of
>>     Versions? I don't think they address the same issue. With
>>     SNAPSHOTS you can put different names to different "moments" of a
>>     package. 
>     We don't have this yet, but I guess this will be a very useful
>     feature.  I.e. a named package version or package version alias.
>>     More important, SNAPSHOTS were created and updated on demand and
>>     not every time you update the package, so you can update a
>>     SNAPSHOT definition adding or changing its assets and you don't
>>     need to update your applications. 
>     Not sure how you can do this? a SNAPSHOT is a read-only copy of
>     package. You can not change its configuration nor you can add or
>     change its asset.
>>     They always read the package using same SNAPSHOT name. 
>>     Using versions, I need to be careful in change my applications
>>     when I want them to use some modifications I have in my package.
>>     I mean, I also see package versioning as something good, but I'm
>>     not sure if versions could replace SNAPSHOT. Are you planning to
>>     add some way to put a name to a particular group of versioned assets?
>>
>>     Best Regards,  
>>
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>>
>>     Esteban Aliverti
>>     - Developer @ http://www.plugtree.com <http://www.plugtree.com>
>>     - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com
>>
>>
>>     2011/10/8 jliu <jliu at redhat.com <mailto:jliu at redhat.com>>
>>
>>         On 2011/10/7 9:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote:
>>>         Hi again. 
>>>
>>>         I have been able to use guvnor package versions with some
>>>         success..
>>>
>>>         Is there any service I can call to create a new version? I
>>>         have checked that it seems to change the package version
>>>         when you click on "save package". Can I have some URL to
>>>         achieve it automatically?
>>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         Sorry for the late response, I was in holiday. There is no
>>         REST service to create a package version as this is not
>>         needed. A package version is created automatically when your
>>         package gets updated (through Guvnor UI or through REST).
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>         Jervis
>>
>>>         Thanks
>>>
>>>         Demian
>>>
>>>         On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Demian Calcaprina
>>>         <calcacuervo at gmail.com <mailto:calcacuervo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Thanks Jervis.
>>>
>>>             I currently use Guvnor 5.2, and saw that I can use
>>>             version so I will try to use them.
>>>
>>>             - Is there something I will be missing about versions,
>>>             by using 5.2?
>>>             - Do you know when a new version is created? With
>>>             Snapshots, I could choose when to create a new one. How
>>>             about versions?
>>>
>>>             Thanks!
>>>
>>>             Demian
>>>
>>>             2011/10/3 jliu <jliu at redhat.com <mailto:jliu at redhat.com>>
>>>
>>>                 On 2011/10/4 1:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote:
>>>>                 Hi everyone. I am using Guvnor 5.2, and I need to
>>>>                 make some operations from my application.
>>>>
>>>>                 Specifically, I need to make two operations remotely:
>>>>                 - List Snapshots, as it is possible to list packages.
>>>>                 - Create a new snapshot from a package.
>>>>
>>>>                 Is this possible to make these operation through
>>>>                 rest API?
>>>>
>>>                 Hi,
>>>
>>>                 Start from 5.3, Guvnor Packages are fully versioned.
>>>                 I would recommend you to use a vesioned package
>>>                 instead of package snapshot. Package snapshot will
>>>                 be deprecated in the future.
>>>
>>>                 Cheers,
>>>                 Jervis
>>>>                 Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>                 Demian
>>>>
>>>>
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