[rules-users] Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES

Michael Anstis michael.anstis at gmail.com
Fri Apr 27 07:24:56 EDT 2012


What version of Guvnor are you using?

I attach a screenshot produced using 5.4.0.CR1.

I also note your screenshot shows "All ACObeservation" where as mine "There
is a TelephoneCall"

Can you describe the steps you have taken, or supply a repository export?

On 27 April 2012 12:12, Pellecchia Carolina <c.pellecchia at vitrociset.it>wrote:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I couldn't bind a field because the click on the field doesn't work.
> concretely, please see attached.
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Carolina Pellecchia
>
>
>
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> michael.anstis at gmail.com>>
> Date: Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES
> To: Rules Users List <rules-users at lists.jboss.org<mailto:
> rules-users at lists.jboss.org>>
>
>
> Glad to be of assistance.
>
> To bind a field, once the field has been added to the Fact type simply
> click on the field name.
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 27 April 2012 08:31, Pellecchia Carolina <c.pellecchia at vitrociset.it
> <mailto:c.pellecchia at vitrociset.it>> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I’m a colleague of Matteo Cusmai, we would like to thank you for your
> suggestions. you have been very helpful.
>
> Following your steps, I couldn't understand a point: how can I bind a
> field(for ex. RadiationObservation.location)  to a variable?
> specifically,
>
>       $obs : RadiationObservation(?$obsLocation : location? ) over
> window:length (1) from entry-point "lowLevelSensorStream"
>
>
> Best regards,
> Carolina Pellecchia
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>  1. Re: Setting variables in a stateless session (Welsh, Armand)
>  2. Re: Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES (Michael Anstis)
>  3. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
>     (Michael Anstis)
>  4. looking for advice (Bobby Richards)
>  5. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
>     (Vincent LEGENDRE)
>  6. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor (Sean Su)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:57:11 +0000
> From: "Welsh, Armand" <AWelsh at StateStreet.com>
> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Setting variables in a stateless session
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> Think of a stateless knowledge session as being a statefull knowledge
> session, with the following adjustments:
> A stateless knowledge session cannot be manipulated prior the start of the
> session.
> A stateless knowledge session cannot be manipulated or queried after the
> end of the session.
> A stateless session begins when you execute the fireallrules method.
> A stateless session ends when the rule processing terminates.  -- There is
> no pause, there is no restarting.  The instant the rules stop firing, and
> return to your calling code, the knowledge session has been torn down.
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> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:06 AM
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> Subject: [rules-users] Setting variables in a stateless session
>
> hi folks, this is a simple question ,
> i just want to understand how is it possible that a stateless session have
> a
> setGlobal() method as it does not maintain a state. What's the point ?!
> i  also have some confusion between a "request scope" and a "stateless
> session scope" i think it s the same..
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> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:09 +0100
> From: Michael Anstis <michael.anstis at gmail.com<mailto:
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> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES
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> Sure.
>
>  - Create "New Rule"
>
>
>  - Add a condition (green + near "WHEN")
>
>
>  - Select "From Entry Point"
>
>
>  - Type "lowLevelSensorStream" into TextBox
>
>
>  - Click on "click to add patterns..."
>
>
>  - Select your Fact Type (see * below)
>
>
>  - In "Over sliding window" ListBox select "Length"
>
>
>  - Type "1" into the TextBox next to "Length".
>
> * OK, so this is possibly where you're having problems.
>
> In order for a Fact Type to be used with CEP it needs to be annotated as an
> Event. This is how this can be accomplished:-
>
> *If you have a Declarative Model
> *
>
>  - Open the Declarative Model
>
>
>  - Select the Fact Type that should be an Event
>
>
>  - Add an Annotation, name="role", key="value", value="event"
>
>
>  - Save
>
>
> *If you have a POJO Model*
>
>  - Create a new Declarative Model
>
>
>  - Add a Fact Type that matches the name of that in your JAR
>
>
>  - Add an Annotation, name="role", key="value", value="event"
>
>
>  - Save
>
>
> Annotating your POJO is covered in the Drools Expert User Guide. You are
> just using Guvnor to achieve what is required.
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Mike
>
> On 26 April 2012 15:22, Matteo Cusmai <cusmaimatteo at gmail.com<mailto:
> cusmaimatteo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> > thanks for suggestion, but i have already read documentation.
> >
> > First of all, i cannot define "over window:length(1) from entry-point
> > lowLevelSensorStream".
> > Do you help me to do this?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Matteo.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Anstis <
> michael.anstis at gmail.com<mailto:michael.anstis at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes this is possible with Guvnor 5.2 onwards.
> >>
> >> The user-guide explains how to use the Guided Rule Editor (but not
> >> specifically CEP features).
> >>
> >> Read that and give it a try - it's reasonably intuitive (not an excuse
> >> for poor documentation though) and come back here with questions.
> >>
> >> With kind regards,
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> On 26 April 2012 09:08, Matteo Cusmai <cusmaimatteo at gmail.com<mailto:
> cusmaimatteo at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> i am novice on GUVNOR, but i would like to define my fusion rules by
> >>> graphical tool.
> >>>
> >>> An example of my rules is:
> >>>
> >>> rule "radiation-event"
> >>>     salience 10
> >>>     no-loop
> >>>     when
> >>>         $obs    : RadiationObservation( $obsLocation : location, value
> >
> >>> 10 ) over window:length(1) from entry-point lowLevelSensorStream
> >>>         not RadiationEvent( this meets[ 25s ] $obs, location
> >>> geoIsWithinDistance[ 5m ] $obsLocation )
> >>>     then
> >>>         insert(new RadiationEvent( $obs, "Radiation over 10",
> >>> Event.THREAT_HIGH, $obsLocation, $obs.getSensor() ));
> >>> end
> >>>
> >>> rule "radiation-update"
> >>>     salience 5
> >>>     no-loop
> >>>     when
> >>>         $obs    : RadiationObservation( $obsLocation : location, value
> >
> >>> 10 ) over window:length(1) from entry-point lowLevelSensorStream
> >>>         $event     : RadiationEvent( this meets[ 25s ] $obs, location
> >>> geoIsWithinDistance[ 5m ] $obsLocation )
> >>>     then
> >>>         Event e = Event.clone($event);
> >>>         e.addObservation($obs);
> >>>         insert( e );
> >>>         retract($event);
> >>>         retract($obs);
> >>> end
> >>>
> >>> Is it possibile to define rules such the above using GUVNOR?
> >>> Are there some documentation or tutorial?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot in advance,
> >>> Matteo Cusmai.
> >>>
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> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument
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> Seems reasonable enough.
>
> On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su <sean.x.su at gmail.com<mailto:
> sean.x.su at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from
> > the java class that has the default non argument constructor in
> > Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in.
> > This would force us to provide setters to the object.
> >
> > Is this a true statement?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sean
> >
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> Subject: [rules-users] looking for advice
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> I have not yet determined how I want to implement my problem and was hoping
> to get some feedback.
>
> I am using drools to migrate the logic from my automated currency trading
> infrastructure.  Each currency pair, i.e. eurusd has around
> 200 attributes associated with it.
>
> This includes range values (high, low, average) for multiple time periods,
> volatility information, bid/ask updates etc.
>
> Currently I have classes associated for each, so say for range:
>
> class Range {
>  double high;
>  double low;
>  double avg;
> }
>
> Range europe = new Range();  //european trading hours
> Range us = new Range(); //us trading hours
>
>
> Questions:
> 1.  I am wondering if I should not just create a map that lists every
> attribute per pair as a key ("eurusd:range:europe:high")?  So essentially
> my drools session will have one fact, not counting the incoming quotes.  I
> see on the list that this was a problem before the mvel updates but that
> was a while ago.
>
> 2.  When an incoming quote might modify a value, what is the performance
> difference between using a rule to change the value or making the changes
> outside of the ksession and referencing the facthandler to modify?  Is one
> method considered 'cleaner'?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
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> From: Vincent LEGENDRE <vincent.legendre at eurodecision.com<mailto:
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> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument
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> JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters
> (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties)
>
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> De: "Michael Anstis" <michael.anstis at gmail.com<mailto:
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> ?: "Rules Users List" <rules-users at lists.jboss.org<mailto:
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> Envoy?: Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27
> Objet: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
>
>
> Seems reasonable enough.
>
>
> On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su < sean.x.su at gmail.com<mailto:
> sean.x.su at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
> It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from
> the java class that has the default non argument constructor in
> Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in.
> This would force us to provide setters to the object.
>
> Is this a true statement?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sean
>
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> From: Sean Su <sean.x.su at gmail.com<mailto:sean.x.su at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument
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> What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without
> fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new
> events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created,
> it should not be modified as it happened in the past.
>
> So I am trying to avoid setters if possible.
>
> Sean
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE <
> vincent.legendre at eurodecision.com<mailto:vincent.legendre at eurodecision.com>>
> wrote:
>
> JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for
> writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties)
>
> ------------------------------
> *De: *"Michael Anstis" <michael.anstis at gmail.com<mailto:
> michael.anstis at gmail.com>>
> *?: *"Rules Users List" <rules-users at lists.jboss.org<mailto:
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> *Envoy?: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27
> *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument
> constructor
>
> Seems reasonable enough.
>
> On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su <sean.x.su at gmail.com<mailto:
> sean.x.su at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from
> > the java class that has the default non argument constructor in
> > Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in.
> > This would force us to provide setters to the object.
> >
> > Is this a true statement?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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