[rules-users] agenda-groups

gboro54 gboro54 at gmail.com
Tue May 8 13:11:27 EDT 2012


Thanks! I am working out the details now on getting this running(having some
issues with the queue which is not related to drools)...Thanks!


laune wrote
> 
> On 8 May 2012 16:04, gboro54 <gboro54@> wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps a blocking queue which has facts put on from other threads, the
>> thread then inserts x number of facts and fires the rule set?
>>
> 
> Yes, I'd say that's more like it.
> 
> If these zillions of facts aren't related, they can be processed by
> disjoint sessions. So,
> if you want to feed more than one CPU, run several sessions like that.
> 
> It might be desirable to have small batches of facts inserted and
> processed
> by a single
> call. You should know whether there is a way to do that...
> 
> -W
> 
> 
>>
>> gboro54 wrote
>> >
>> > The point is to be able to stream a large volume of messages into the
>> rule
>> > session without tying up that thread. In addition I don't want there to
>> be
>> > millions of messages in a session at a given point, thus the point of
>> > executing the rules on a different thread while inserting facts from
>> > another.
>> >
>> >
>> > laune wrote
>> >>
>> >> What about executing insert(s) followed by fireAllRules() in one
>> thread?
>> >> -W
>> >>
>> >> On 08/05/2012, gboro54 <gboro54@> wrote:
>> >>> What do you recommend?  firUntilHalt seems to get locked out after
>> >>> sometime... I am running out of ideas and have posted this question
>> >>> before.
>> >>> I believe we talked about periodically using fireAllRules on a
>> separate
>> >>> thread.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> laune wrote
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Periodically calling fireAllRules() in a thread running parallel to
>> the
>> >>>> one(s)
>> >>>> doing insertions doesn't make sense to me.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -W
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 08/05/2012, gboro54 <gboro54@> wrote:
>> >>>>> I am not currently using agenda-groups. I believe my issue right
>> now
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> one
>> >>>>> of thread safety. A little background: I currently have a thread
>> >>>>> pulling
>> >>>>> messages from a database running on the main thread. In several
>> other
>> >>>>> threads, I have drools session being fired every so often. It
>> appears
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> there may be a some type of deadlock caused by invoking
>> fireAllRules
>> >>>>> on
>> >>>>> one
>> >>>>> thread, while another is trying to insert. I am working through
>> right
>> >>>>> now
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> debug the issue. Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Vincent Legendre wrote
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I am having an issue where I have a catch all
>> >>>>>>> retraction rule setup as the lowest salience.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Not sure to understand that (note that I am not english native
>> ...)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I see activations created for the facts but they are never fired.
>> >>>>>>> Any
>> >>>>>>> thoughts on why this may happen?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Send some rules. Activations never fired is just too vague to have
>> a
>> >>>>>> single answer.
>> >>>>>> If you use agenda groups, may be that the group is simply not on
>> >>>>>> focus
>> >>>>>> ...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Add a first rule that set the focus, or set auto-focus for all
>> your
>> >>>>>> "low
>> >>>>>> salience" rules, or don't set agenda group for them (their group
>> will
>> >>>>>> be
>> >>>>>> the MAIN group).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The session is run on a separate thread with fireAllRules called
>> >>>>>>> every
>> >>>>>>> 1/2
>> >>>>>>> second. I have tried syncronizing inserts on the session so that
>> >>>>>>> thread
>> >>>>>>> would not be in the middle of firing when new facts come in but
>> that
>> >>>>>>> does
>> >>>>>>> not seem to do anything....
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Why not using fireUntilHalt instead ?
>> >>>>>> Run your session.fireUntilHalt in a separate thread, and insert
>> >>>>>> things
>> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>> that session.
>> >>>>>> insert (or update or retract) will wake up the session.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Of course, one day, you have to call halt() on your session to get
>> >>>>>> out.
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