[seam-dev] Re: Seam 2.0 GA Reference have been translated into Chinese

Thu Apr 3 20:13:17 EDT 2008

Shane let me know when you can make it next week. I will also introduce 
you to Chester who's the Localization team Manager.
Xiaogang are the translated docs simplified Chinese or Traditional 
Chinese? We need to put them in the right folders for zh-CN(traditional) 
and zh-TW (simplified).
Pete could you also point us to where you've put the xml files from 
Xiaogang?
cheers.
Samson

Pete Muir wrote:
> We're no longer using the ant based docbook build system you see in 
> Seam 2.0.0 in Seam 2.0.2 (we're using the maven based docbook system 
> developed by Mark Newton and Steve Ebersole).
>
> I've added Mark to cc - Mark, do you know whether the new system copes 
> with Chinese font settings?
>
> Xiaogang, YuLimin, if you have time, please take a look at the new 
> system, you can see it on the 2.0.2.CR1 tag 
> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/tags/JBoss_Seam_2_0_2_CR1/
>
> And for the 2.0.0 docs, I guess if you could upload the pdf, html, 
> html_single as a zip to the JIRA - 
> http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBSEAM-2817 then we can use those 
> and include the src xml in a zip.
>
> Best,
>
> On 3 Apr 2008, at 15:43, Xiaogang Cao wrote:
>> Hi, all, let me introduct YuLimin, the leader of our Seam translation.
>>
>> BTW, We are using a different docbook build script than English, 
>> because we need different font settings for Chinese. Or you will get 
>> a broken PDF file.
>>
>> (the same happened in Hibernate reference translation. I modified the 
>> build script to use different docbook files at that time.)
>>
>> Pete, It's better to let Yu send you the script and expalin to you if 
>> necessary.
>>
>> Xiaogang
>>
>> Shane Bryzak 写道:
>>> Samson,
>>>
>>> Do you think we could arrange a time next week for me to pop into 
>>> the office to discuss what we can do to assist Xiaogang (and in 
>>> general any other community translation efforts) with a well defined 
>>> process for performing documentation translation?  Specifically I'm 
>>> wondering if we can provide the same set of translation tools that 
>>> we use internally to our external contributors.  Anyway, let me know 
>>> what time would be suitable for a meeting and we can discuss this in 
>>> more detail then.
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>>> HI Xiaogang,
>>>>
>>>> Samson, translation lead for JBoss, has some pretty cool tools to 
>>>> aid ongoing translation, but we haven't quite worked how to make 
>>>> them available to you (or we have, and I don't know about it!). 
>>>> We'll keep you informed of progress.
>>>>
>>>> For now, I would suggest waiting until we release 2.0.2.GA (in the 
>>>> next week or two), then if you are able to update the translation 
>>>> for the new docs, and create a "Documentation Translation" JIRA 
>>>> issue, we can release an addendum to Seam 2.0.2.GA when you do with 
>>>> the translated docs in. Does that sound ok to you?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> On 3 Apr 2008, at 14:55, Xiaogang Cao wrote:
>>>>> I've send the source file to Pete.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually we keep upgrade it from CR to GA, and 2.0.2 in the way. I 
>>>>> think the best way is to put it into the 'doc/ref' of svn and I 
>>>>> can commit new upgrades.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay Balunas 写道:
>>>>>> If it all works out we can upload it with the CR1 or GA. Get it 
>>>>>> all up at the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>> Samson, I thought you had already done the necessary work for 
>>>>>>> this on the Seam 2.0 branch?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our 2.0.2 release (CR being done now) uses the new structure you 
>>>>>>> provided.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, this translation is for a slightly older version - can we 
>>>>>>> still integrate it somehow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2008, at 09:31, Samson Kittoli wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Shane,
>>>>>>>> this is great news... thanks for the great work Xiaogang.
>>>>>>>> As for localization, 
>>>>>>>> http://engineering.redhat.com/docbot/en-US/Internal/5.0/html/Localization_Services/index.html 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Outlines the localization process.. (link available internally)
>>>>>>>> had a look at the seam ref guide and the directory structure 
>>>>>>>> also needs a bit of housekeeping to get things started... more 
>>>>>>>> like the following:
>>>>>>>> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/projects/docs/trunk/AS_5/Installation_Guide/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/projects/docs/trunk/AS_5/Administration_And_Configuration_Guide/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the two books build using maven and publican...and are ready 
>>>>>>>> for translation (doesn't mean no more content addition for 
>>>>>>>> english unless there's a freeze...usually around GA)
>>>>>>>> i would be glad to help out with this work if thats ok with 
>>>>>>>> you... once everything is setup then get the translated docs 
>>>>>>>> into the ref guide. Once this is done, it should be easier to 
>>>>>>>> move forward with a proper localization workflow..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>> samson.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shane Bryzak wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That's awesome news. I'm adding Samson into the discussion - 
>>>>>>>>> Samson, how do we go about incorporating this translation into 
>>>>>>>>> our updated documentation structure?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gavin King wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Oops, wrong mailing list!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Gavin King 
>>>>>>>>>> <gavin at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cool, that's awesome! Thanks for your hard work!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Folks, what do you want to do with this translation?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Xiaogang Cao 
>>>>>>>>>>> <xiaogang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi, Dear Gavin:
>>>>>>>>>>> > We have cafually released Seam 2.0 GA Reference Chinese 
>>>>>>>>>>> version in our
>>>>>>>>>>> > translate team site : 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.redsaga.com/opendoc/Seam2.0/html/ (The
>>>>>>>>>>> > leader is Yu Limin, and more than 20 people was involved.)
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Actually the whole translation was completed 3 months 
>>>>>>>>>>> before, and we use
>>>>>>>>>>> > another 3 months to invite people to review it. The 
>>>>>>>>>>> reviewer include me and
>>>>>>>>>>> > Ma Yue, you must know him before :)
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > So, how do you want to publish it in Seam site? include 
>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>> > distribution is more directly, but will increase the 
>>>>>>>>>>> tarball size. Or public
>>>>>>>>>>> > it in the seam site?
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Xiaogang :)
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Gavin King
>>>>>>>>>>> gavin.king at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Gavin
>>>>>>>>>>> http://hibernate.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://seamframework.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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