[seam-dev] Seam and monitoring / managing

[Pete Muir]

Hi Heiko

We currently having nothing at all like this in Seam, and I think it  
could be very useful.

It sounds like this should be a separate jboss-seam-management library  
you could deploy inside your app to provide this functionality. This  
could define a public API which the management tool could use to  
retrieve the management data. It could also optionally persist this  
info to a database.

I think we need to get some concrete use cases together to get an idea  
of the kind of data a user would want to collect and see how much  
impact this would have on the core code.

On 1 Jul 2008, at 10:46, Heiko W.Rupp wrote:

> Hi,
>
> as you know we now have shiny new RHQ / JBossON 2 as management  
> solution of the next century (Ok, I'll stop :-)
>
> Seriously: we can monitor the "bare metal" aspects of running  
> applications. But I can imagine that it would be
> very helpful to go even further and monitor the actual application.
> Things like (examples)
> - what is the average value of a shopping cart
> - how many users are choosing which path in a navigation flow
> - how long did a specific action take
> - ...
>
> In order to accomplish this, the writer of an application needs to  
> determine what data he wants from which place. I can imagine  
> additional annotations like e.g. @Timing on method level to initiate  
> the data gathering. Seam could then
> compute the timing for that method and provide it in some means to  
> management applications (e.g. in a database table or
> Mbean attribute or ...), from where a management application like  
> RHQ could pick it up.
>
> What do you think?
>
>   Heiko
>
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