[seam-dev] Re: [Seam Dev] Re: EJB3/JNDI bindings/ordering

Pete Muir pete.muir at jboss.org
Sat Mar 29 10:48:50 EDT 2008

I fought quite extensively over this and I'm not really prepared to  
spend (waste) any more time on it.

TBH, I'm not even sure that anyone from EJB3/AS/MC actually gets what  
this feature actually is and why it is important *. The main  
discussion the EJB3/AS/MC guys wanted to have seemed to be over who  
was to "blame" for Seam apps not running on AS5, a discussion which I  
have absolutely no interest in pursuing *.

In fact, this whole discussion (and other similar ones) left me  
pretty sour in the mouth. The general impression I got was that Seam  
as a vehicle for pushing EJB3 wasn't interesting for the EJB3 guys,  
from which I formed the conclusion that we would probably be better  
off concentrating on the Seam JavaBean component model.

And so, if anyone else wants to pick up the AS5 integration work/ 
liaison from me, please do!

* There are a couple of exceptions to this of course

On 29 Mar 2008, at 14:25, Gavin King wrote:
> Agreed, we definitely can't say that Seam supports JBoss5 until this
> feature is back in.
> One of the critical selling features of Seam is that no XML is
> required to declare a component.
> Anyway, this feature will be in the next rev of EJB.
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>>>   From an interop perspective this feature is a good seperator with
>>>  other containers, especially for beginers.
>>>  Not worrying about populating web.XML makes learning and getting
>>>  started easier.
>>>  My $0.02
>>>  Jay
>>  I'm a little late to the game with this response, but I want to  
>> point
>>  out that a number of Seam/JBoss developers cited this feature while
>>  bragging about why JBoss AS is better than alternative application
>>  servers. By taking the feature away, it results mouths stuffed with
>>  feet. Besides, "configuration by exception" is the very saving grace
>>  of the platform and this is a prime candidate for such a pattern.
>>  My dime. Sent from a computer I don't own.
>>  -Dan
> -- 
> Gavin King
> gavin.king at gmail.com
> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Gavin
> http://hibernate.org
> http://seamframework.org

Pete Muir

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