[seam-dev] passing on feedback

Jay Balunas tech4j at gmail.com
Wed May 7 09:34:32 EDT 2008


We need to consider

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir at bleepbleep.org.uk> wrote:

>
> On 7 May 2008, at 08:21, Dan Allen wrote:
>
>  The awareness of Seam is very high from what I can tell being at J1.
> > In two Seam-related sessions 100% of people had heard of it, with
> > about 15% using it. However, there are two questions I keep getting
> > over and over...and oh, btw way, the people who answer the question
> > butcher the shit out of the response.
> >
> > 1. Is Seam WebBeans? Where does WebBeans fit into the picture? Am I
> > going to have to rewrite all my Seam applications?
> > 2. What is Seam's stance on the next version of Java EE? Is Seam
> > committed to Java EE 6 or just saying the hell with it?
> >
> > For the first question, I think we need an FAQ on swfk.org with a
> > short and concise standpoint just so that speakers can stop saying
> > stupid shit (and shit that is wrong). I put in a first draft, but it
> > might suck. Feel free to revise and make public:
> > http://seamframework.org/21343.lace
> >
> > For the second question, I really feel that we should try to reduce
> > Seam's code base as Java EE improves (I'm not talking about our non
> > Java EE integrations here). That is a good thing. It means we
> > succeeded in "fixing" Java EE. Then we add the next generation
> > feature, rinse and repeat. There is great stuff coming in EJB 3.1 and
> > already I see areas where Seam can repeat its improvement over the
> > standard, such as with managed concurrency.
> >
> > BTW, talked to the Cisco guys and it looks like we have a great case
> > study in the works. They worship Seam and about to go to production
> > with it. They just need to work through some conversation issues. The
> > target is Geronimo server (they said Pete and Gavin assisted them),
> > but that is missing from the docs. We need to put Jay in touch with
> > them to avoid duplicate work.
> >
>
> I believe I know the issue, and we need to dig into it. The Geronimo site
> has Seam integration docs, which Jay was going to update the sfwk pages to
> link to. We can certainly integrate a community contribution to our docs
> here :-)


We can move the Geronimo reference guide chapter up the priority stack, but
I could also work with them, or talk to them about a contribution to the
seam docs.  Even help integrate their work if it would help.

I still have updating sfwk.org on the todo list - it's a long list ;-)


>
>
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> > --
> > Dan Allen
> > Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action
> >
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> >
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