[seam-dev] BI integration

Pete Muir pmuir at redhat.com
Mon Oct 13 15:55:07 EDT 2008


So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT?

On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote:

> Pete,
>
> I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who creates  
> the reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to  
> create reports for management, etc. The BI is about management  
> designing the reports and the developers feeding the parameters to  
> it from the UI (and all the security and context that goes along  
> with it).
>
> The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in  
> mind when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to  
> wait on the developer to get a report through the system. Not only  
> does this slow things down, it ties up developer resources. At my  
> previous job, we had a huge problem with this because there was a  
> neverending need to customize reports for customers and thus the  
> process was not scalable. BI is about putting the consumers (or  
> designers) of the reports in control.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:
> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a way  
> to be used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you  
> must build your project with Eclipse).
>
> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE support?
>
>
> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote:
>
> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I want to
> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort of BI
> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with JasperReports.
> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might look
> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example, here's an
> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports.
>
> http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow
>
> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say that we
> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to former
> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, but
> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all working
> together.
>
> -Dan
>
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