[seam-dev] BI integration

[Dan Allen]

There isn't much, but I found a wiki page on the Pentaho Design
Studio, which I believe is what the Eclipse plugin is called.

http://wiki.pentaho.com/display/studio/Getting+Started+with+Design+Studio

-Dan

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen
<max.andersen at redhat.com> wrote:
> Any links to their (opensource) Eclipse stuff ?  I couldn't find it on their
> website...
>
> /max
>
>> Hi Max,
>> the pentaho "suite" is distributed as a modified eclipse containing
>> the report designer,
>> and another one to create action sequences.
>> They can all be installed as plugins, or as prepackaged eclipses (as
>> Developer Studio)
>> coming with a ready-to-start JBoss preconfigured as a BI server, with
>> schedulers and
>> all needed stuff.
>>
>> Sanne
>>
>> 2008/10/16 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> BIRT has good Eclipse editing facilities...but has a really bad runtime
>>> size/setup.
>>>
>>> What does Pentaho and JasperReport have in context of Eclipse integration
>>> ?
>>>
>>> /max
>>>
>>>> please, don't forget Pentaho.
>>>> they were looking very good already, and are improving a lot and at a
>>>> very fast pace.
>>>> additionally they have strong bounds with JBoss, as it's the default
>>>> platform.
>>>>
>>>> Sanne
>>>>
>>>> 2008/10/13 Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT?
>>>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who creates the
>>>>> reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to create
>>>>> reports
>>>>> for management, etc. The BI is about management designing the reports
>>>>> and
>>>>> the developers feeding the parameters to it from the UI (and all the
>>>>> security and context that goes along with it).
>>>>>
>>>>> The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in
>>>>> mind
>>>>> when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to wait on
>>>>> the
>>>>> developer to get a report through the system. Not only does this slow
>>>>> things
>>>>> down, it ties up developer resources. At my previous job, we had a huge
>>>>> problem with this because there was a neverending need to customize
>>>>> reports
>>>>> for customers and thus the process was not scalable. BI is about
>>>>> putting
>>>>> the
>>>>> consumers (or designers) of the reports in control.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a way to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you must
>>>>>> build
>>>>>> your project with Eclipse).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE support?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I want
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort of BI
>>>>>>> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with JasperReports.
>>>>>>> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might look
>>>>>>> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example, here's an
>>>>>>> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say that we
>>>>>>> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to former
>>>>>>> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, but
>>>>>>> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all working
>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>>>
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