[seam-dev] BI integration

Max Rydahl Andersen max.andersen at redhat.com
Fri Oct 17 02:13:19 EDT 2008 

So for me this look like a Swing app adapted to eclipse and the source  
code is not easily available anywhere.

Plus it is not an eclipse plugin, but an Eclipse application ;(

/max

> There isn't much, but I found a wiki page on the Pentaho Design
> Studio, which I believe is what the Eclipse plugin is called.
>
> http://wiki.pentaho.com/display/studio/Getting+Started+with+Design+Studio
>
> -Dan
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen
> <max.andersen at redhat.com> wrote:
>> Any links to their (opensource) Eclipse stuff ?  I couldn't find it on  
>> their
>> website...
>>
>> /max
>>
>>> Hi Max,
>>> the pentaho "suite" is distributed as a modified eclipse containing
>>> the report designer,
>>> and another one to create action sequences.
>>> They can all be installed as plugins, or as prepackaged eclipses (as
>>> Developer Studio)
>>> coming with a ready-to-start JBoss preconfigured as a BI server, with
>>> schedulers and
>>> all needed stuff.
>>>
>>> Sanne
>>>
>>> 2008/10/16 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>:
>>>>
>>>> BIRT has good Eclipse editing facilities...but has a really bad  
>>>> runtime
>>>> size/setup.
>>>>
>>>> What does Pentaho and JasperReport have in context of Eclipse  
>>>> integration
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> /max
>>>>
>>>>> please, don't forget Pentaho.
>>>>> they were looking very good already, and are improving a lot and at a
>>>>> very fast pace.
>>>>> additionally they have strong bounds with JBoss, as it's the default
>>>>> platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanne
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/10/13 Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT?
>>>>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pete,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who creates  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to create
>>>>>> reports
>>>>>> for management, etc. The BI is about management designing the  
>>>>>> reports
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the developers feeding the parameters to it from the UI (and all the
>>>>>> security and context that goes along with it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in
>>>>>> mind
>>>>>> when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to  
>>>>>> wait on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> developer to get a report through the system. Not only does this  
>>>>>> slow
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> down, it ties up developer resources. At my previous job, we had a  
>>>>>> huge
>>>>>> problem with this because there was a neverending need to customize
>>>>>> reports
>>>>>> for customers and thus the process was not scalable. BI is about
>>>>>> putting
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> consumers (or designers) of the reports in control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a  
>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you must
>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>> your project with Eclipse).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE  
>>>>>>> support?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I  
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort of  
>>>>>>>> BI
>>>>>>>> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with  
>>>>>>>> JasperReports.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might  
>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example,  
>>>>>>>> here's an
>>>>>>>> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say  
>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to former
>>>>>>>> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, but
>>>>>>>> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all working
>>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
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