[seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release

Fri Apr 3 02:51:16 EDT 2009

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Dan, I did rollback of Drools 5 changes, I have noticed that this
influences seam-gen sources. I also reverted seam-gen elements so check
these, if all is OK.

Dan Allen napsal(a):
> Please note that rolling back a dependency like Drools has a ripple effect
> into seam-gen. The deployed-jars*.list files must be updated (if the
> artifact name changes, as was the case with Drools 5 and MVEL), the IDE
> project files must be updated, and the Ivy dependencies file must be
> updated. Yes, it sucks, which is why we have seam-gen encore in the
> works...but I'm just saying that you have to let me know excactly when you
> are changing it so that I can react.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> I blogged about release plans:
>>
>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/TheStateOfSeam
>>
>> Marek, can you roll back the Drools 5 upgrade in trunk for now? We'll
>> branch after in the release for 2.1/2.2.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we can best
>>> integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a tentative plan,
>>> which should be finalised soon.
>>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July.
>>>>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then I can
>>>>> be there to guide it.  That way we can move it forward to april.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea.  jBPM
>>>>> database schema will change.  And that could cause serious upgrade problems
>>>>> for SEAM users using jBPM.  Also upgrade from jBPM 3 to jBPM 4 will be
>>>>> impossible for now.
>>>>>
>>>> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is? And
>>>> roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do 2.2.0 and
>>>> 2.2.1, I guess we could do:
>>>>
>>>> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>>>> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May
>>>> Seam 2.2.0  - Wednesday 17th June
>>>>
>>>> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> regards, tom.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening due to
>>>>>> these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on EAP 5, which in
>>>>>> turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the release Seam 2.2 (which I
>>>>>> said would never happen, I know ;-)
>>>>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a huge
>>>>>> amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include:
>>>>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he has
>>>>>> been soldiering away!)
>>>>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan
>>>>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef
>>>>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades
>>>>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each
>>>>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and plans the GA
>>>>>> in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a beta out I think for
>>>>>> Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this will be?
>>>>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule:
>>>>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>>>>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May
>>>>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June
>>>>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA)
>>>>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too, something
>>>>>> we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3.
>>>>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with EAP5
>>>>>> component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in?
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events at lists.jboss.org>
>>>>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT
>>>>>>> To: pete.muir at jboss.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools
>>>>>>> framework integration to version 5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  [
>>>>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785#action_12457785]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011:
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools
>>>>>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance) and most of
>>>>>>> all there are several API changes that make Seam after changeset #10170 not
>>>>>>> compatible with Drools 4 forcing a migration to Drools 5 in the run time
>>>>>>> environment of existing applications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is
>>>>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules in my
>>>>>>> application don't compile anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a maintenance
>>>>>>> release of Seam.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Key: JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>>>>             URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>>>>         Project: Seam
>>>>>>>>      Issue Type: Feature Request
>>>>>>>>      Components: Drools
>>>>>>>>        Reporter: Marek Novotny
>>>>>>>>        Assignee: Marek Novotny
>>>>>>>>         Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development version
>>>>>>>> of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> Pete Muir
>>>>>> http://www.seamframework.org
>>>>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> regards, tom.
>>>>>
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