[seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release

Fri Apr 3 02:58:11 EDT 2009

Great! Thanks for taking care of that.

-Dan

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny at redhat.com> wrote:

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> Dan, I did rollback of Drools 5 changes, I have noticed that this
> influences seam-gen sources. I also reverted seam-gen elements so check
> these, if all is OK.
>
> Dan Allen napsal(a):
> > Please note that rolling back a dependency like Drools has a ripple
> effect
> > into seam-gen. The deployed-jars*.list files must be updated (if the
> > artifact name changes, as was the case with Drools 5 and MVEL), the IDE
> > project files must be updated, and the Ivy dependencies file must be
> > updated. Yes, it sucks, which is why we have seam-gen encore in the
> > works...but I'm just saying that you have to let me know excactly when
> you
> > are changing it so that I can react.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I blogged about release plans:
> >>
> >> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/TheStateOfSeam
> >>
> >> Marek, can you roll back the Drools 5 upgrade in trunk for now? We'll
> >> branch after in the release for 2.1/2.2.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >> Pete Muir wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we can
> best
> >>> integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a tentative
> plan,
> >>> which should be finalised soon.
> >>>
> >>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July.
> >>>>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then I
> can
> >>>>> be there to guide it.  That way we can move it forward to april.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea.
>  jBPM
> >>>>> database schema will change.  And that could cause serious upgrade
> problems
> >>>>> for SEAM users using jBPM.  Also upgrade from jBPM 3 to jBPM 4 will
> be
> >>>>> impossible for now.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is?
> And
> >>>> roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do 2.2.0 and
> >>>> 2.2.1, I guess we could do:
> >>>>
> >>>> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April
> >>>> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May
> >>>> Seam 2.2.0  - Wednesday 17th June
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> regards, tom.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pete Muir wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> All,
> >>>>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening due
> to
> >>>>>> these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on EAP 5,
> which in
> >>>>>> turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the release Seam 2.2
> (which I
> >>>>>> said would never happen, I know ;-)
> >>>>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a
> huge
> >>>>>> amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include:
> >>>>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he
> has
> >>>>>> been soldiering away!)
> >>>>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan
> >>>>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef
> >>>>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades
> >>>>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each
> >>>>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and plans
> the GA
> >>>>>> in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a beta out I
> think for
> >>>>>> Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this will be?
> >>>>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule:
> >>>>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April
> >>>>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May
> >>>>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June
> >>>>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA)
> >>>>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too,
> something
> >>>>>> we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3.
> >>>>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with
> EAP5
> >>>>>> component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in?
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events at lists.jboss.org>
> >>>>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT
> >>>>>>> To: pete.muir at jboss.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools
> >>>>>>> framework integration to version 5
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  [
> >>>>>>>
> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785#action_12457785
> ]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011:
> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools
> >>>>>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance)
> and most of
> >>>>>>> all there are several API changes that make Seam after changeset
> #10170 not
> >>>>>>> compatible with Drools 4 forcing a migration to Drools 5 in the run
> time
> >>>>>>> environment of existing applications.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is
> >>>>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules in
> my
> >>>>>>> application don't compile anymore.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a maintenance
> >>>>>>> release of Seam.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5
> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>             Key: JBSEAM-4011
> >>>>>>>>             URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011
> >>>>>>>>         Project: Seam
> >>>>>>>>      Issue Type: Feature Request
> >>>>>>>>      Components: Drools
> >>>>>>>>        Reporter: Marek Novotny
> >>>>>>>>        Assignee: Marek Novotny
> >>>>>>>>         Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development
> version
> >>>>>>>> of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  --
> >>>>>> Pete Muir
> >>>>>> http://www.seamframework.org
> >>>>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> regards, tom.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> seam-dev mailing list
> >>>>> seam-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Pete Muir
> >>>> http://www.seamframework.org
> >>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> seam-dev mailing list
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> >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Pete Muir
> >>> http://www.seamframework.org
> >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete
> >>>
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