[seam-dev] Subtle changes in seam-gen affecting JBDS :)

Dan Allen dan.j.allen at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 11:43:02 EDT 2009


Sigh. I have explained this before, but I take the blame for not making this
information part of the official documentation. Perhaps I should.

Here's the story. The purpose of the tokenized file is to allow the same
build to target different application servers. Right now, JBoss AS 5 and
GlassFish are supported. This cannot be done at project setup time because
the point of supporting multiple servers is to demonstrate portability of an
application, hence a switch at build time.

Before raising objection to token replacements, know that I have set it up
so that the JBoss Tools sees files in the place it expects to see them with
explicit values. The tokenized files are only used by Ant when running the
build for GlassFish or with an alternative profile (in theory).

With that said, there could be bugs in this setup. The problem is that
people keep changing the files without a full understand of how everything
works. I know, it is confusing as hell. We have established already that
seam-gen is just not going to get any better until it is rethought. It was
never designed to support JBoss Tools. Therefore, we have these problems.

We really need to just leave seam-gen as it is at this point because the
complexity is too high for it to be stable with so many hands in the pot. I
know Pete said that a year ago, but we really need to support GlassFish to
fix the perception that Seam only worked on JBoss AS. Yes, it was risky, but
it has expanded our user base, so it was worth the effort.

-Dan

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:

> Regarding whether JBT can use the tokenized-war, I don't think it can
> as it relies on ant replacement tokens.
>
> Dan, could we achieve the same thing using an ftl at generation time?
>
> In general, for the next major rev of Seam-gen, we should use ftl for
> every template file, no matter how trivial, as it gives us a lot more
> flexibility in the future to add features.
>
> On 17 Aug 2009, at 13:04, Pete Muir wrote:
>
> > Ok, I will respond on the issue.
> >
> > On 17 Aug 2009, at 12:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've added Pete as a watcher on
> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBDS-828
> >> but if someone else knows about what components-war-tokenized.xml is
> >> and why
> >> components.xml is not targeting AS5 so JBoss Tools/JBDS breaks...then
> >> please feel free to comment.
> >>
> >> p.s. I assume the tokenized.xml is to add some flexibility and that
> >> is
> >> great, but adding that flexibility to JBDS
> >> this close to codefreeze is something I would like to avoid if
> >> possible.
> >> Next version we should sync on what
> >> flexibilities were added since I got a feeling that more than this
> >> were
> >> added to seam-gen recently ;)
> >>
> >> /max
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