[seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release

Wed Mar 18 08:27:41 EDT 2009

 > Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is? And
 > roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do 2.2.0 and
 > 2.2.1, I guess we could do:

the 4.0 GA is actually the first possible release that could be included in a seam 
release.  and that is targetted for July 1st.

the database will not be stable before that time.

regards, tom.

Pete Muir wrote:
> 
> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote:
> 
>> In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July.
>>
>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then I 
>> can be there to guide it.  That way we can move it forward to april.
> 
> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway).
> 
>>
>>
>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea.  
>> jBPM database schema will change.  And that could cause serious 
>> upgrade problems for SEAM users using jBPM.  Also upgrade from jBPM 3 
>> to jBPM 4 will be impossible for now.
> 
> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is? And 
> roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do 2.2.0 and 
> 2.2.1, I guess we could do:
> 
> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April
> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May
> Seam 2.2.0  - Wednesday 17th June
> 
> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules?
> 
>>
>>
>> regards, tom.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>> All,
>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening due 
>>> to these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on EAP 5, 
>>> which in turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the release 
>>> Seam 2.2 (which I said would never happen, I know ;-)
>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a 
>>> huge amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include:
>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he 
>>> has been soldiering away!)
>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan
>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef
>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades
>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each 
>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and plans 
>>> the GA in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a beta out 
>>> I think for Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this will be?
>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule:
>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May
>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June
>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA)
>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too, 
>>> something we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3.
>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with 
>>> EAP5 component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events at lists.jboss.org>
>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT
>>>> To: pete.muir at jboss.org
>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools 
>>>> framework integration to version 5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   [ 
>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785#action_12457785 
>>>> ]
>>>>
>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011:
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools 
>>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance) and 
>>>> most of all there are several API changes that make Seam after 
>>>> changeset #10170 not compatible with Drools 4 forcing a migration to 
>>>> Drools 5 in the run time environment of existing applications.
>>>>
>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is 
>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules in 
>>>> my application don't compile anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a maintenance 
>>>> release of Seam.
>>>>
>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>               Key: JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>               URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>           Project: Seam
>>>>>        Issue Type: Feature Request
>>>>>        Components: Drools
>>>>>          Reporter: Marek Novotny
>>>>>          Assignee: Marek Novotny
>>>>>           Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development version 
>>>>> of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version.
>>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> regards, tom.
>>
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regards, tom.