[seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release
Pete Muir
pmuir at redhat.com
Fri Mar 27 12:58:40 EDT 2009
Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we can
best integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a
tentative plan, which should be finalised soon.
On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote:
>
> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote:
>
>> In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July.
>>
>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then
>> I can be there to guide it. That way we can move it forward to
>> april.
>
> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway).
>
>>
>>
>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea.
>> jBPM database schema will change. And that could cause serious
>> upgrade problems for SEAM users using jBPM. Also upgrade from jBPM
>> 3 to jBPM 4 will be impossible for now.
>
> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is?
> And roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do
> 2.2.0 and 2.2.1, I guess we could do:
>
> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April
> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May
> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 17th June
>
> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules?
>
>>
>>
>> regards, tom.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>> All,
>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening
>>> due to these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on
>>> EAP 5, which in turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the
>>> release Seam 2.2 (which I said would never happen, I know ;-)
>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a
>>> huge amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include:
>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he
>>> has been soldiering away!)
>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan
>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef
>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades
>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each
>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and
>>> plans the GA in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a
>>> beta out I think for Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this
>>> will be?
>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule:
>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May
>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June
>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA)
>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too,
>>> something we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3.
>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with
>>> EAP5 component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events at lists.jboss.org>
>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT
>>>> To: pete.muir at jboss.org
>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools
>>>> framework integration to version 5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [ https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785
>>>> #action_12457785 ]
>>>>
>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011:
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools
>>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance)
>>>> and most of all there are several API changes that make Seam
>>>> after changeset #10170 not compatible with Drools 4 forcing a
>>>> migration to Drools 5 in the run time environment of existing
>>>> applications.
>>>>
>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is
>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules
>>>> in my application don't compile anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a
>>>> maintenance release of Seam.
>>>>
>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Key: JBSEAM-4011
>>>>> URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011
>>>>> Project: Seam
>>>>> Issue Type: Feature Request
>>>>> Components: Drools
>>>>> Reporter: Marek Novotny
>>>>> Assignee: Marek Novotny
>>>>> Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development
>>>>> version of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version.
>>>>
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>> regards, tom.
>>
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