[seam-dev] Re: [webbeans-dev] Seam-bridge-api and seam-webbeans-bridge question

Dan Allen dan.j.allen at gmail.com
Sun May 24 14:21:43 EDT 2009


On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Clint Popetz <cpopetz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there any reason seam-bridge-api and seam-webbeans-bridge shouldn't move
> to
> webbeans-extensions?  I have this jira issue:
>
> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/WBX-34
>
> to allow the webbeans wicket support to work with any jsr-299 impl,
> and part of making that work is providing a way for the wicket
> extension to grab the current manager instance.  It seems like this
> functionality
> is useful independent of seam.


I think we are engaging in a struggle over ownership of features and
defining boundaries between Seam and WB.

In my definition, Seam is the universal middleware stack at Red Hat which is
most definitely independent of JSR-299 implementation. Therefore, it's my
position that anything that "extends" 299 towards "rich web" should be a
module of Seam. Extensions which don't go in that direction, such as the
Java SE support, are a better fit as a webbeans extension. Furthermore, I
don't think you should feel like you "have to depend on Seam" because it
isn't going to be like Seam 2 where it is all or nothing. Modules are
starkely independent and can be seen as a lose collection of extensions.

Perhaps others will disagree with my definition, or think it too liberal,
but if we don't define where Seam begins, then you could easily rationalize
all modules of Seam be extensions of Web Beans...I will admit though that
the bridge is a gray area in that it could go either way.

-Dan

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