[seam-dev] Re: [webbeans-dev] Seam-bridge-api and seam-webbeans-bridge question

[Clint Popetz]

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Clint Popetz <cpopetz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any reason seam-bridge-api and seam-webbeans-bridge shouldn't
>> move to
>> webbeans-extensions?  I have this jira issue:
>>
>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/WBX-34
>>
>> to allow the webbeans wicket support to work with any jsr-299 impl,
>> and part of making that work is providing a way for the wicket
>> extension to grab the current manager instance.  It seems like this
>> functionality
>> is useful independent of seam.
>
>
> I think we are engaging in a struggle over ownership of features and
> defining boundaries between Seam and WB.
>

True, it seems like an arbitrary boundary.


>
> In my definition, Seam is the universal middleware stack at Red Hat which
> is most definitely independent of JSR-299 implementation. Therefore, it's my
> position that anything that "extends" 299 towards "rich web" should be a
> module of Seam. Extensions which don't go in that direction, such as the
> Java SE support, are a better fit as a webbeans extension. Furthermore, I
> don't think you should feel like you "have to depend on Seam" because it
> isn't going to be like Seam 2 where it is all or nothing. Modules are
> starkely independent and can be seen as a lose collection of extensions.
>
> Perhaps others will disagree with my definition, or think it too liberal,
> but if we don't define where Seam begins, then you could easily rationalize
> all modules of Seam be extensions of Web Beans...I will admit though that
> the bridge is a gray area in that it could go either way.
>


This issue has actually gone away for my own use-case, because the things
wicket-webbeans needs are now part of the new SPI.

-Clint
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