[seam-dev] [weld-dev] Mercurial vs GIT

Mark Struberg struberg at yahoo.de
Tue Nov 24 13:07:30 EST 2009 

Hi!

While both hg and Git provide pretty the same functionality, there is a huge difference in the supported tooling set.

.) maven will (most probably) move to Git. Most of maven folks already use Git internally.
.) there is a native Java Git client called JGit. There will be a jgit provider for maven in the not too distant future. Thus we don't need to care about OS issues!
.) hg is written in Python. Windows users will need to install Python. For git you don't have to install anything. The JGit jar will simply be a dependency of maven-scm.
.) There are native plugins for Eclipse (written by Shawn Spearce), NetBeans (written by Jonas Fonesca) and Idea (provided by Intellij).

And the main reason for my personally: Im an old bearded Unix guy :)

Btw, there is also a migration scenario from SVN to Git. It is even possible to let Git play being a SVN server, so you can access a Git repo with a SVN client.

LieGrue,
strub


--- Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> schrieb am Di, 24.11.2009:

> Von: Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
> Betreff: Re: [weld-dev] [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT
> An: "Jason Lee" <jason at steeplesoft.com>
> CC: "Francisco Jose Peredo" <franciscoperedo at tabasco.gob.mx>, "seam-dev at lists.jboss.org" <seam-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "weld-dev at lists.jboss.org" <weld-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> Datum: Dienstag, 24. November 2009, 17:35
> I also just created a bitbucket
> account, which seems to offer everything that github does.
> 
> Francisco's article makes good reading, and especially as
> we are all used to SVN, SVN compatible commands are a good
> idea ;-)
> 
> Finally, migration to Mercurial looks possible from SVN,
> and tool support looks fine.
> 
> On 24 Nov 2009, at 16:23, Jason Lee wrote:
> 
> > Some time ago, I had to decide between git and hg for
> my personal projects.  I opted to go with hg because I
> felt the docs were better (http://hgbook.red-bean.com/, for example) and the
> Windows support for hg was much better at the time (luckily,
> that's no longer an issue for me, as I'm not using Windows
> ATM :).  For what it's worth, some people at my local
> JUG use git and have complained about the inconsistency
> between one command and another.  I can neither confirm
> nor deny, as I've never used git in anger.  I am,
> though, quite happy with Mercurial.  Also, for what
> it's worth, it's my understanding that GlassFish (in
> addition to NetBeans, OpenJDK, etc) will be moving to hg at
> some point, so there are major projects on both systems.
> > 
> > With regard to hosting, I'm using kenai.com for
> Mojarra Scales and FacesTester, and I've been really happy
> with it.  I get a nice wiki, hg (or git or svn or cvs),
> and JIRA.  I realize there may be concerns with kenai
> of various sorts, so, if that's not an option, bitbucket.org
> is one option for hosting projects.  The Mercurial
> maintains a fairly lengthy list here: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialHosting
> > 
> > On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Dan Allen wrote:
> > 
> >> We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be
> honest, mercurial wasn't considered. I've used both as well.
> But in my short exposure, I really didn't see a difference.
> What makes git so attractive is that github.com explains so
> well how to use it.
> >> 
> >> I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there
> was a nice out of the box hosting option like github.com. If
> not, git will likely win because of that.
> >> 
> >> -Dan
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >> I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have
> liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who
> have spoken up on this issue.
> >> 
> >> Sell us Mercurial :-)
> >> 
> >> On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo
> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > An interesting comparision?:
> >> >
> >> > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió:
> >> >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I
> have read it is pretty
> >> >> complicated to learn to use...
> >> >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is
> also distributed, and found it
> >> >> confortable... apparently the
> >> >> way it deals with its distribute nature
> is easier for subversion users
> >> >> to understand...
> >> >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in
> Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it
> >> >> seems to work
> >> >> well with large code bases... and there
> are plugins for Netbeans,
> >> >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg
> >> >> project is advanced and usable...
> >> >> Google Code offers free Mercurial
> hosting...
> >> >> Why not Mercurial?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Pete Muir escribió:
> >> >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f
> meeting was whether to switch to
> >> >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This would give us a IMO a system
> well suited to our distribued dev
> >> >>> model, it would also make it much
> easier for others to sandbox PEs and
> >> >>> then contribute them back to us.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The proposal is to use Github to
> host.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The team members at devoxx were in
> favour, but what do others think?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Pete
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
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