[seam-dev] Removing the combined jar

Shane Bryzak sbryzak at redhat.com
Thu Jun 9 20:12:58 EDT 2011


Sounds good to me, as also the combined jars for various other 
profiles.  Jason, care to add this to the agenda for next week's IRC 
meeting and we can flesh it out a little further?

On 10/06/11 08:40, Dan Allen wrote:
> I suggested this a while back as the "Seam for Web Profile".
>
> seam-web-profile.jar
>
> Calling it seam.jar is *way* too ambiguous and is going to do nothing 
> but lead to confusion. Let's give the stack a name (such as "Seam for 
> Web Profile") and qualify the jar.
>
> So +1 to that revised idea :)
>
> -Dan
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 18:26, Shane Bryzak <sbryzak at redhat.com 
> <mailto:sbryzak at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     That's a fair point, however to address this (and for simplicity's
>     sake) what if we were to provide a combined jar that included most
>     of the modules?  I would say that the following list represents
>     the "core" of Seam:
>
>     Solder
>     Catch
>     Config
>     International
>     JMS
>     Mail
>     Persistence
>     REST
>     Security
>     Servlet
>     Validation
>
>     We would simply call this combined jar seam.jar, and on top of
>     that, the developer would also add dependencies for whatever view
>     technology they're using (i.e. seam-faces, errai or seam-wicket),
>     and then the extra features if they require them (Cron, JCR,
>     Remoting, Reports, Social, etc).  That should greatly reduce the
>     number of jar files in a deployment.
>
>
>     On 10/06/11 08:08, John D. Ament wrote:
>>     -1
>>
>>     In my opinion the combined jar helps keep the number of JAR files
>>     down in deployments.
>>
>>     On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:dan.j.allen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         +1
>>
>>         -Dan
>>
>>
>>         On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 00:12, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp
>>         <http://lightguard.jp>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             +1
>>
>>
>>             On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 17:32, Shane Bryzak
>>             <sbryzak at redhat.com <mailto:sbryzak at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 We discussed this briefly on IRC, however I thought
>>                 we should discuss it
>>                 on seam-dev before we make any concrete decision.  To
>>                 summarise the plan:
>>
>>                 1. Remove the combined jar file from each of the modules
>>                 2. If the module has a single implementation, rename
>>                 it to whatever the
>>                 combined jar was called.
>>                     E.g. for Seam Catch, the impl module would be
>>                 called seam-catch.
>>                 3. If the module has multiple implementations, then
>>                 add a suffix to the
>>                 artifact name that reflects the individual
>>                 implementation.
>>                     E.g. Seam Reports has two implementations, which
>>                 would be called
>>                 seam-reports-jasper (for Jasper reports) and
>>                 seam-reports-pentaho (for
>>                 Pentaho).
>>                 4. Leave the API naming as it is, e.g. seam-reports-api.
>>
>>                 The idea is that by importing the simplified module
>>                 artifact name (i.e.
>>                 "seam-xxx") you would get the default implementation,
>>                 which in turn
>>                 depends on the API.  The advantage of this is that we
>>                 won't break
>>                 backwards compatibility - e.g. someone currently
>>                 declaring a dependency
>>                 on "seam-catch" in their pom file won't have their
>>                 app broken when we
>>                 rename the modules.  Also we remove the complexity
>>                 introduced by having
>>                 a combined jar in the first place.
>>
>>                 If you can spot any issues with this, please speak up
>>                 now ;)
>>
>>                 Shane
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