[seam-dev] DeltaSpike Logging

Shane Bryzak sbryzak at redhat.com
Thu Jan 12 03:49:46 EST 2012


I agree, it might be helpful to also have a simple code example too.  As 
for the rest of the requirements, they look good to me.

On 12/01/12 15:10, Christian Kaltepoth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> with "type safe logging" you are referring to typed loggers like 
> implemented in Solder, right? In this case you could perhaps add a 
> sentence what type safe logging actually is. I don't think that 
> everybody knows that.
>
> Christian
>
>
> 2012/1/12 Ken Finnigan <ken at kenfinnigan.me <mailto:ken at kenfinnigan.me>>
>
>     As per today's Seam meeting, below is a draft of an email I'll
>     send to the DeltaSpike mailing list to re ignite the logging
>     discussion, as it is on hold at present.
>
>     Please provide feedback on content and language used, as I want
>     this to get the discussion off on the right foot.
>
>     Ken
>
>     =============================
>     All,
>
>     As we approach a 0.1 release of DeltaSpike, congratulations to
>     everyone on the good work so far, I feel it's a good time to begin
>     discussing how we want to handle logging within DeltaSpike.  I
>     certainly don't expect this discussion to result in code for 0.1,
>     but the earlier we begin this discussion, then it increases the
>     likelihood of it being ready for 0.2
>
>     Having been heavily involved in the logging work for Solder, I
>     know the pain that can be experienced in not getting it right, and
>     also how long it can take to get right.
>
>     I see that there are several goals that we want for logging in
>     DeltaSpike:
>
>      1. Make it simple for both extension writers and end users.  If
>         it's too difficult to implement, use or even get right, then
>         we'll frustrate and alienate developers.
>      2. It must perform.  We don't want to introduce large overhead to
>         logging.
>      3. There should be an option to allow/provide type safe logging.
>      4. An end user should be able to have DeltaSpike log against
>         whichever logging library they want to utilize in their
>         application.  We can certainly support a specific framework as
>         a default, but it's important to allow a developer to have the
>         same control over how DeltaSpike is logged as their own
>         application.
>
>     Thoughts?
>
>     Regards
>
>     Ken Finnigan
>
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