[seam-dev] Going forward

Tue Jan 17 02:41:25 EST 2012

Moving this into a little more public venue:
http://seamframework.org/Community/TheNextFewSeamReleases

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 04:13, José Rodolfo Freitas <
joserodolfo.freitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Shane Bryzak <sbryzak at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>  We're toying with the idea of a 3.2.0 release, which could be done in a
>> couple of months and would mostly include bug fixes and other quality
>> improvements.  I agree, DeltaSpike will probably be quite a few months
>> before any form of complete release is done, and I'm sure that many of the
>> modules will require some refactoring as well since deltaspike-core isn't a
>> 1:1 port of Solder.
>>
>>
>> On 09/01/12 23:04, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>  Right now Delta Spike project is dealing with very low level core
>> aspect of CDI extension (Solder and CODI core merge mainly). I don't know
>> when we'll have a real version of Delta Spike with all the Seam modules.
>>
>>
>>  I've done a lot of dev on Seam Social lately. Unfortunately it was not
>> stable enough to be integrated in 3.1.0.FINAL. So I'm supporting the idea
>> of having a 3.1.1 or even 3.2.0 for me to add my new code to make it
>> available in the coming month and not at the end of the year.
>>
>>  regards,
>>
>> Antoine SABOT-DURAND
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>> 06 08 55 34 26
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>>
>>
>>
>>  Le 5 janv. 2012 à 09:57, Adrian Gonzalez a écrit :
>>
>>   Hello Jason,
>>
>>  Just my opinion, and it's not worth much (I'm no Seam dev, and I'm not
>> even using Seam 3 for now - only Seam 2).
>>
>>  Anyway, samples are a really high priority : CDI and JSF 2 are quite
>> tricky - as where Seam 2 and JSF 1.2 ;)
>> I've googled a bit on the internet to find a good JSF/CDI crud sample,
>> you confbuzz sample was the most promising.
>>
>>  I believe starting with really simple crud samples (confbuzz), and
>> gradually augmenting them is the way to go.
>>
>>  And with the pre-requisites :
>>  * stateless is a must - so stateless whenever it's possible.
>>  * GET for readonly and POST for modifications.
>>  *  striving for simplicity
>>
>>  Some sample ideas could be :
>> 1 - Simple CRUD : confbuzz.
>> 2 - CRUD with search criteria for list page.
>>     reworking @Inject in Query bean.
>> 3 - CRUD with edit page (create / update).
>>     Firt step in LRC ?
>>     Without a postback to go from list to edit page ?
>> 4 - CRUD with pagination
>> 5 - CRUD with sort
>> 6 - CRUD with delete action in list page
>>     Postback and LRC in list page... Impact on LRC delimitation in edit
>> page...
>> 7 - CRUD with multiple select in list page.
>> 8 - CRUD with RF dataScroller db pagination / sort / filter sample ?
>>
>>  And documenting every bit of it. This would be like another christmas
>> gift ;)
>>
>>  For the rest, I wonder if you shouldn't only correct blocker/major
>> issues in Seam 3 and direct all your efforts into DeltaSpike.
>>
>>  Have a nice day !
>>
>>    ------------------------------
>> *De :* Jason Porter <lightguard.jp at gmail.com>
>> *À :* Seam Mailing List <seam-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 4 Janvier 2012 23h48
>> *Objet :* [seam-dev] Going forward
>>
>> Part of this mail is going to be open thoughts from me, so if you don't
>> agree, that's fine, it's really open for discussion. I'm wondering what
>> everyone wants to focus on for Seam 3.2.0. Obviously we need to support
>> those currently running on Seam 3, and we'll also continue to work on
>> DeltaSpike. I think eventually we will cut a Seam 3 release that's based on
>> DeltaSpike Core instead of Solder, which should make things much easier for
>> people when migration time comes, or if they want to use MyFaces CODI
>> extensions as well.
>>
>>  We currently have 369 issues against Seam 3. I'm not sure how many we
>> squashed during the Seam 3.1 cycle, but I know it was quite a bit, maybe
>> 150+. I'd like to hear from the community as well as the module leads what
>> they feel like we should be working on for this next Seam development
>> cycle.
>>
>>  I know we have said we were going to focus on documentation and
>> examples, and I still believe that needs to happen. Obviously we need to do
>> some other dev as well. Maybe a good example though will drive some of that
>> development. Right now the current examples are very weak and typically
>> only focus on one or two modules. I have my Confbuzz example [1] which is
>> up to date with Seam 3.1.0.Final, but is really lacking features. It could
>> be a good place to start if nothing else.
>>
>>  Does anyone else have any thoughts or a direction they'd like to see
>> things move?
>>
>>  [1] https://github.com/seam/seam-example-confbuzz
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