[weld-dev] My take on Spring3

[Reza Rahman]

Piotr,

Please consider posting your comments on InfoQ...it would help a greater 
number of developers see past the Spring FUD...

Cheers,
Reza


Piotr Steininger wrote:
> Gavin,
>
> One thing to add to your comment is that they have done nothing to 
> Spring Webflow, which on  the cover, promises the scopes/context that 
> Seam 2 delivered (primarily the conversation scope). I had the 
> misfortune of being forced to use the Spring stack on one of my 
> engagements, after having great success with Seam on another project. 
> I can't explain how harrowing of an effort it was to get Webflow 
> working even remotely like Seam (in Webflow all conversation scoped 
> beans had to be manually defined in the xml). And the docs - yes there 
> are some, but extremely minuscule for JSF integration and absolutely 
> NO mention of necessary JSF 1.2 configuration, which I had to figure 
> out on my own.
>
> I also had to make it work with Spring Security - this one is clunky 
> and difficult to set up, no to mention buggy. Yes, the security was 
> bumped to 3.0.0 and aligned with JSR-250, but where in the world are 
> the docs?! There aren't any for 3.0, and the ones for 2.x aren't any 
> better than the ones for Webflow.
>
> As a software architect who often gets to decide the technology stack 
> (but sometimes gets overruled :( ), I look for a complete /ecosystem/ 
> for the application I'm designing, not just individual pieces with big 
> promises. I need stuff that works, works well, and works together. Not 
> only that, I look for something simple, maintainable and maintained by 
> a strong community. And my measure of strong community is the quality 
> of documentation and access to knowledgeable resources, without 
> support contracts.
>
> This is where Spring falls entire short of its promises, yet again. So 
> my time and money are with CDI and Seam.
>
> Thanks for your advocacy and hard work!
>
> Piotr
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Gavin King <gavin.king at gmail.com 
> <mailto:gavin.king at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/12/spring30#view_51440
>
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