[wildfly-dev] Is JMX Needed in Core?

[Patton, John]

I'd like to vote for adding it into the full dist and configuring the
provisioning tool to grab the JMX modules.

We rely on JMX for accessing specific monitoring metrics and it's
difficult to get at some of the metrics that used to be easily available
in prior versions for some metrics.  We've had to jump through some hoops
to get JMX working the way we need in wildfly 8 -- with the new undertow
module, we had to write some code to expose some metrics that used to be
part of the jbossweb module, like avgResponseTimeMS and requestCount.
Would be awesome if JMX support was more complete and part of the full
dist.

Cheers,

John H Patton



On 7/9/14 1:27 PM, "Brian Stansberry" <brian.stansberry at redhat.com> wrote:

>My earlier reply on this thread was in the branch focused on the
>technical detail of how the dependency arises. Which should be fixed;
>sounds like that's happening.
>
>On the broader question of where stuff belongs, JMX is an interesting
>case. Lots of users will want JMX. A number of subsystems have optional
>dependencies on it, including some like jgroups and infinispan that may
>end up being part of their own dist, separate from the full dist.
>
>So what's the plan for catering to these needs? Ship it in the full dist
>and those who want it depend on the full dist but configure the
>provisioning tool to only grab the JMX modules? Make it a micro-dist?
>Maybe a mini-dist packaged with some others? JMX, system-jmx, pojo as
>the "deploy your own services" dist? (I don't like that last one, just
>brainstorming...)
>
>On 7/9/14, 5:47 AM, Darran Lofthouse wrote:
>> Working with the split repo just questioning if JMX is really needed in
>> core?
>>
>> Whilst most distributions would include it I am not convinced it is a
>> subsystem all must have.
>>
>
>Manageable logging isn't either. Lots of people used logging.properties
>for a long time.
>
>Note I'm not advocating removing logging from core; I'm just saying that
>no subsystem has to be in core if that's the criteria.
>
>> Regards,
>> Darran Lofthouse.
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