[wildfly-dev] Is JMX Needed in Core?

[Brian Stansberry]

If things you need are not exposed via the undertow subsystem management 
API, please file feature request JIRAs. Or even better, send a patch if 
you exposed it via the subsystem.

On 7/9/14, 1:55 PM, Patton, John wrote:
> I'd like to vote for adding it into the full dist and configuring the
> provisioning tool to grab the JMX modules.
>
> We rely on JMX for accessing specific monitoring metrics and it's
> difficult to get at some of the metrics that used to be easily available
> in prior versions for some metrics.  We've had to jump through some hoops
> to get JMX working the way we need in wildfly 8 -- with the new undertow
> module, we had to write some code to expose some metrics that used to be
> part of the jbossweb module, like avgResponseTimeMS and requestCount.
> Would be awesome if JMX support was more complete and part of the full
> dist.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John H Patton
>
>
>
> On 7/9/14 1:27 PM, "Brian Stansberry" <brian.stansberry at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> My earlier reply on this thread was in the branch focused on the
>> technical detail of how the dependency arises. Which should be fixed;
>> sounds like that's happening.
>>
>> On the broader question of where stuff belongs, JMX is an interesting
>> case. Lots of users will want JMX. A number of subsystems have optional
>> dependencies on it, including some like jgroups and infinispan that may
>> end up being part of their own dist, separate from the full dist.
>>
>> So what's the plan for catering to these needs? Ship it in the full dist
>> and those who want it depend on the full dist but configure the
>> provisioning tool to only grab the JMX modules? Make it a micro-dist?
>> Maybe a mini-dist packaged with some others? JMX, system-jmx, pojo as
>> the "deploy your own services" dist? (I don't like that last one, just
>> brainstorming...)
>>
>> On 7/9/14, 5:47 AM, Darran Lofthouse wrote:
>>> Working with the split repo just questioning if JMX is really needed in
>>> core?
>>>
>>> Whilst most distributions would include it I am not convinced it is a
>>> subsystem all must have.
>>>
>>
>> Manageable logging isn't either. Lots of people used logging.properties
>> for a long time.
>>
>> Note I'm not advocating removing logging from core; I'm just saying that
>> no subsystem has to be in core if that's the criteria.
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Darran Lofthouse.
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