[jboss-cluster-dev] [Fwd: Re: Infinispan in JBoss AS]

[Manik Surtani]

On 10 Jul 2009, at 18:14, Jason T. Greene wrote:

> Manik Surtani wrote:
>> I know this should be a separate thread, but isn't building two  
>> separate management mechanisms counter-intuitive?  E.g., I was  
>> hoping JOPR could provide standalone cluster/grid management for  
>> Infinispan as well.  I am in Stuttgart next week to speak at their  
>> JUG and am hoping to catch up with Heiko Rupp to discuss this stuff.
>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-126
>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-127
>
> Where we draw the line was a topic discussed recently with the JON  
> team. The consensus was that the management APIS of the AS need to  
> encompass a cluster/domain, while JOPR manages multiple clusters/ 
> domain. There is no duplication here because both management views  
> (jopr or embedded jopr) expose the same capabilities using the same  
> central control point (the as profile service management api).
>
> This is for the following reasons:
>
> 1) The embedded console needs to be capable of doing it
> 2) Users/customers need to be able to automate this programmatically  
> from their own provisioning tools, scripts etc.
> 3) Consistency between the cluster configuration and the management  
> view.
> 4) The cluster manager is in the best position to control rolling  
> updates (configuration or deployment).

Good.  Then in seems like JOPR will evolve into something I can use  
for this, based on the information I expose to JOPR via JMX.  Perfect.

Cheers
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Manik Surtani
manik at jboss.org
Lead, Infinispan
Lead, JBoss Cache
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