[jboss-dev] hibernate 3.3.0 upgrade, slf4j introduction into jbossas

[Steve Ebersole]

I care so little about this I am willing to give you commit access to  
Hibernate and you can set us up on whatever logging wrapper/framework  
you want...

On May 5, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Rémy Maucherat wrote:

> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve at hibernate.org>  
> wrote:
>> Great, more technical discussion from Remy...  how surprising  LOL
>
> I think at this point you are really a sad person. I don't really care
> about the issue personally, you obviously do as you wouldn't engage
> over gratuitous comments over it ... Oh well.
>
> The technical points about slf4j is that there's nothing. It is
> another logging wrapper, that's it. Anyone can write a new one in no
> time, and we would end up with quite a few of my_logging.jar and
> my_logging_jboss_logging_wrapper.jar in AS. This particular one exists
> only to serve Ceki Gulcu's business agenda, which is to keep the
> current splintered logging API market (if people were standardizing on
> JUL, he'd be toast ...), so there's no way I can be happy about it.
>
> In the meantime, David's wrapper based idea is practical. That's what
> I did in JBoss Web. I was told I should use JBoss Logging rather than
> commons-logging, and to support the standalone mode using JUL, I
> simply wrote a hardcoded wrapper.
>
> Rémy
>
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