[jsr-314-open] [293-Ajax] REOPEN rename <f:ajax> to <f:clientBehavior>?

Roger Kitain Roger.Kitain at SUN.COM
Thu Apr 23 07:45:50 EDT 2009


No.  Do not rename f:ajax tag.  Ajax is just one type of client 
behavior.  This is an important distinction that must
be understood.

Andy Schwartz wrote:
> Hi Ed -
>
> I can see the argument that we should provide a generic 
> <f:clientBehavior> that plays the same role that <f:converter> and 
> <f:validator> play for Converters and Validators - ie. allows the page 
> author to attach an arbitrary attached object instance by id/binding.  
> (I kind of thought that we might have provided this already, but 
> looking at the release candidate 2 PFD tag docs, I do not see this.)  
> However, I do not see <f:clientBehavior> as as a replacement for 
> <f:ajax>, but an addition to our tag API.  Since such an addition 
> would make the Behavior API more consistent with our 
> Converter/Validator APIs - something we've been striving for from the 
> start of the Behavior API design process - I would be happy to see 
> this go in.
>
> I am very much opposed, however, to removing the <f:ajax> tag in favor 
> of a generic <f:clientBehavior> tag, for the same reasons that I would 
> be opposed to removing, say, <f:convertNumber> in favor of the generic 
> <f:converter> tag.
>
> Andy
>
> Ed Burns wrote On 4/23/2009 4:43 AM ET:
>> I am opening the 2.0 door a crack to consider this one renaming change.
>> Don't expect that I'll let other things through.
>>
>> Several people have suggested renaming f:ajax to f:clientBehavior.  Here
>> are some arguments for and against renaming.
>>
>> Arguments for renaming
>>
>> * more correct.  The attached object is a clientBehavior
>>
>> * it's possible and likely to use the tag for non-ajax things
>>
>> * this is the 20% case
>>
>> Arguments against renaming
>>
>> * most users will be using the tag for Ajax
>>
>> * IDE autocomplete is important to consider.  Many new users rely
>>   heavily on this feature and if we don't have an ajax tag, we force
>>   them to look at the docs.  Autocomplete junkies hate that.
>>
>> * this is the 80% case
>>
>> My opinion is not to rename, but Pete, Martin and I have different
>> thoughts on this so I'll bring it to the EG.
>>
>> Ed
>>   




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