[jsr-314-open] [ADMIN] Sun Certified JSF Developer Exam Questions (was:Re: Where's Ed Burns this week?)

[Imre Osswald]

Hi Martin,

it is terribly complicated and wrong to do it (I totally agree),
but still possible. (As I said, I would never want to see anything  
like that)
As such rendering a) to maybe not the best "wrong" answer.

The problem with d) being true, is that there are plenty of horrible  
ways I could come up to register managed beans ;)

Still there should be a question about managed beans, and b,c and d,  
should be in the answers.
Maybe we can either tweak the question, or change a) a bit, but I am  
also O.K. with having the question as is.
I don't want to be a "Haarspalter" (quibbler?), especially if I can  
not think of a better wrong answer :D

Maybe:
a) by putting the bean into the session-map?

which would make the bean usable in EL, as if it were a managed-bean.
But not registering it, nor does this make the bean managed.

or:		
a) by calling FacesContext.getApplication().registerManagedBean(String  
name, Class<?> beanClass)
.. no comment :)

regards
Imre



On 18.12.2009, at 02:25, Martin Marinschek wrote:

> Hi Imre,
>
> I don't know of a d) which is used like this (with some DI-containers,
> you can of course do it, although nobody I have seen does it). In any
> case, it really sounds terribly complicated and wrong to do it, and
> not at all like a correct answer, while the other 3 all sound right to
> me.
>
> But - maybe it's just me, so help me out: please give me a better
> suggestion for a) if you think it is not yet far enough from the
> truth....
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 12/18/09, Imre Osswald <ioss at mx.jevelopers.com> wrote:
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> how "hard you have to push" depends on what "register" and "Managed
>> Bean" really means.
>> But let's say we have a d) which allows me to register Managed Beans
>> dynamically, then you could have groovy code in your view definition,
>> that gets executed and registers the MB.
>> While I am pretty sure, this is something I don't want to see in any
>> view definition I have to work with, it would still be possible.
>> (About using groovy in the view-definition see:
>> http://blog.jevelopers.com/archives/4-Project-Frisco-started.html)
>>
>> regards,
>> Imre
>>
>> On 18.12.2009, at 00:30, Martin Marinschek wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Imre,
>>>
>>> d) is certainly valid with more than one bean container right now.  
>>> In
>>> which context is a) valid? Never heard of anything like this.
>>>
>>> I don't think potential exam-takers will read this list, if they  
>>> do, I
>>> think it's ok if they pass the exam ;)
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 12/17/09, Imre Osswald <ioss at mx.jevelopers.com> wrote:
>>>> If d) is valid and you push hard enough you can make a) valid too.
>>>>
>>>> But my actual question is, if we publish the questions and answers
>>>> here on an open list, will they still be usable in an exam? :)
>>>>
>>>> Imre
>>>>
>>>> On 17.12.2009, at 16:37, Martin Marinschek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would have said that b, c and d are all three valid answers.  
>>>>> Can't
>>>>> we have multiple valid answers?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/17/09, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, David Geary
>>>>>> <clarity.training at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/12/17 Martin Marinschek <mmarinschek at apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't chime in for the distractors, but here my question:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can you register a managed bean with JSF2?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a) Using groovy in the view definition
>>>>>>>> b) Using XML-code in the faces configuration file
>>>>>>>> c) Using annotations in the Java-Code of the managed-bean
>>>>>>>> d) Using other JSF2 compliant bean-containers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> c) ... (@ManagedBean or @Named)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
>>>>>> Registered Linux User #231597
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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